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From: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de>
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Subject: Re: OT: Converting miles/km
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 18:47:38 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2025-03-02, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:

> Trump didn't seem to understand the impression that the TV audience got.

I thought Trump was performing for his supporters and it was well
received in those quarters.

Igor Girkin[1], of all people, has an astute take:

  Overall, I disagree with the assessment of this meeting and its
  outcome as presented by our media. On our television, they claimed
  that Trump and Vance harshly humiliated Zelensky. However, I
  believe that it was Zelensky who utterly humiliated Trump and
  Vance in front of the central American media and all of America.
  When Trump, in his characteristically boorish cowboy manner, tried
  to demean Zelensky in the Oval Office of the White House, he ended
  up with the exact opposite result.

  Not only did Zelensky refuse the deal that Trump already considered
  as good as in his pocket—a deal he could have presented to his
  voters and all U.S. citizens as his first major foreign policy
  success-but he effectively turned the tables. In fact, Trump faced
  direct and demonstrative defiance from someone he regarded, at
  best, as a servant, or more likely as some sort of "white native,"
  whose opinion doesn't matter and who is expected to bow on command
  to the "big white sahib" as much and in whatever way the latter
  pleases.

  Zelensky demonstrated that the elites in Europe and the U.S.
  supporting him are strong enough to oppose Trump, at least on
  this level. Of course, Donald will never forgive Zelensky for
  this—absolutely never. The question, however, is different: what
  can he do about it? And the answer is, not much.

https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3ljext3mkhk2p


[1] Russian ultranationalist, involved in Russia's invasion of
    Donbas in 2014, convicted of shooting down MH17, currently
    languishing in a Russian prison because of his strident criticism
    of the Russian leadership and Putin personally for half-assing
    the invasion of Ukraine.
-- 
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de