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From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 19:50:03 -0000 (UTC)
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Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote at 15:20 this Friday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> writes:
>
>> Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote at 00:31 this Sunday (GMT):
>>> Has anyone ever tried this?
>>>
>>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>> It is a text-based application where the entire user interface is
>>> represented by a mosaic of text cells forming a TUI matrix. The
>>> resulting TUI matrix is just rendered either into its own GUI window or
>>> into a compatible text console.
>>>
>>> It can wrap any console application and be nested indefinitely, forming
>>> a text-based desktop environment.
>>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>>
>>> Sources:
>>> https://github.com/directvt/vtm
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kofkoxGjFWQ
>>
>>
>> It's certainly a cool idea, but I don't see why you wouldn't just go
>> full terminal (tmux) or full ui (another wm). Maybe this would be useful
>> for SSH sessions, though?
>
> That's close to what I thought. I think we've reached a point where a
> lot of good stuff is already done and we don't really need more, even
> though people can do amazing stuff.
Reinventing the wheel can be good for learning, but I definitely agree.
> I'm currently reading an article whose title is ``[t]he computer built
> to last 50 years'' by Ploum, dated 2021 February 4Th. (I should post it
> here.) The article has this tone---we don't need to replace computers
> all the time. Most of that ``need'' is actually just distraction.
>
> We suffer a lot from distraction. If we remove all distraction, what
> happens? We get distracted with what we have left---which is probably a
> pretty good deal. :)
Productive distraction :D
> Even most of our conversations here on USENET would be classified as
> distraction. But I don't think we should kill conversation because
> thinking is important in work and I do think thinking is kind of a
> collective thing.
>
> I've had thoughts of working a lot in offline mode. I could get USENET
> messages every Monday, say, and then spend the rest of the week in
> USENET offline mode. Just that move is already a time saver because
> working in batch mode is /usually/ more efficient.
I use slrnpull, but it's set up to sync every 10 minutes or so. Seeing a
ton of messages piled up makes me kinda nervous.
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