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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 04:58:39 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <slrnvtkjnv.63k.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> References: <OfhCP.158633$sbY2.101138@fx40.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:58:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="728236b7d501d2168e96df78066c3e79"; logging-data="157857"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ZE4XxDHXh1dI++FdVFPd9" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qdRXiM3gMdsk280TKCkPU8aIAwU= Bytes: 2645 On 2025-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > Having discovered that Ubuntu intends to replace the GNU utilities with > Rust equivalents which may or may not work as well in the coming months, > I switched over to Linux Mint 22.1 from Ubuntu 24.04 on this old Macbook > Air 2017. Not only does it bundle the necessary, proprietary wireless > drivers allowing for a smooth install unlike Ubuntu, but Linux Mint runs > a _lot_ faster under Cinnamon than Ubuntu's implementation of GNOME. I > imagine that most of it is due to the use of Snap. For example, > LibreOffice went from taking about ten seconds to load (on a cold start) > to one or two. > > I can only hope that Linux Mint does not follow Ubuntu in removing the > GNU utilities in favour of the rewritten Rust ones. They have already > shown themselves to be less than 100% compatible, so you can imagine > what kind of chaos will result from the change. I'm finding out that the Firefox Snap can't read files in the non-local user directory and Flatpaks can't work with applications outside of their directory. I also can't (or don't know how) to customize the Snap version of Firefox. I think AppImage is the best of the three. There might be another reason Linux Mint is faster. LM defaults to X11 instead of Wayland. On my (older) machines Wayland leaves artifacts (is blotchy in the dark parts of videos, which I guess are artifacts). X11 doesn't do this. Change isn't always for the better. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien