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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs. Flatpak Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:02:22 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <slrnvtkjuu.63k.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> References: <OfhCP.158633$sbY2.101138@fx40.iad> <m3tn2hF2pq8U1@mid.individual.net> <iFhCP.589506$BrX.199602@fx12.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 06:02:22 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="728236b7d501d2168e96df78066c3e79"; logging-data="157857"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/waLydae3DFuKboscPiRXJ" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:z7HtAL7YHko+VIcYEdksnEYqJsA= Bytes: 2765 On 2025-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-03-18 12:58, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 12:33:50 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> Having discovered that Ubuntu intends to replace the GNU utilities with >>> Rust equivalents which may or may not work as well in the coming months, >>> I switched over to Linux Mint 22.1 from Ubuntu 24.04 on this old Macbook >>> Air 2017. Not only does it bundle the necessary, proprietary wireless >>> drivers allowing for a smooth install unlike Ubuntu, but Linux Mint runs >>> a _lot_ faster under Cinnamon than Ubuntu's implementation of GNOME. I >>> imagine that most of it is due to the use of Snap. For example, >>> LibreOffice went from taking about ten seconds to load (on a cold start) >>> to one or two. >> >> I don't have a Macbook or a Cinnamon installation but LibreOffice Writer >> comes up in less than 2 seconds on my Ubuntu box. Also, it is not a snap. > > The fact that it isn't a Snap is probably the reason. My experience with > Snap has always been that it takes time to load the first time around, > but that it is fast every other time. However, I've never run Ubuntu on > as slow a laptop as this one is. On this machine, using Snap is > masochism. Ubuntu itself is also not as fast as you would expect a Linux > distribution which also caters to older machines would be. I'm guessing there's a good chance that it has something to do with the Snap overhead, and maybe Wayland. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien