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From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Shocking speed difference, Ubuntu vs. Linux Mint, Snap vs.
 Flatpak
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 19:48:11 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2025-03-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-03-21 11:01 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-03-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-21 1:20 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-03-21, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-03-20 10:57 p.m., pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-03-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:31:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If anyone out there is a fan of Snaps, then there is a chance they might
>>>>>>>> not be fans of Ubuntu itself. The idea of switching out the GNU tools
>>>>>>>> that work perfectly well in favour of rewritten Rust ones is just
>>>>>>>> idiotic. I would trust the people who produced the GNU tools decades ago
>>>>>>>> a lot more than the filthy hippies who will rewrite them in Rust for a
>>>>>>>> theoretical benefit in regards to memory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been running Ubuntu as my main machine. I'm not a fan of GNOME but I
>>>>>>> can live with it.  I can also like with snap, flatpak, and AppImage.
>>>>>>> Brave is the only app that shows up both in the snap and flatpak list.
>>>>>>> There isn't a lot of consistency. Firefox and dotnet are snaps, Vim is a
>>>>>>> flatpak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been running MXLinux for a long time, years in fact, but I tried out
>>>>>> the latest version of LinuxMint Cinnamon  and on the same hardware it is
>>>>>> much, much faster than MXLinux.
>>>>>> Especially with regards to loading browsers and surfing.
>>>>>> It was painfully slow under MXLinux. Browser didn't matter.
>>>>>> It's not even close.
>>>>>> I wasn't a fan of LinuxMint in the past but I sure am now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's come a long way baby!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a fan now. It made the pathetic the old hardware feel relatively
>>>>> new. Its 5250U processor wasn't even good at the time, but it at least
>>>>> feels adequate eight years later.
>>>>
>>>> The 5250U is faster than the 5300U that's in my Dell Latitude E7450 laptop.
>>>> But they're pretty closely related. I'm happy with the performance of the
>>>> E7450 (I do have 16 GBs of RAM, so that might help.)
>>>
>>> The Mac's got 8GB with no possibility of upgrading it. I can replace the
>>> 128GB it came with, I even have the adapter for it, but Mint doesn't
>>> even fill up the 128GB. At 25% wear, I think I can run it for a number
>>> of years before needing to switch the storage.
>> 
>> The MacBook Air that I haven't yet sold (2015 version) is also stuck at 8
>> GBs. I can't remember what CPU it uses (it looks like a 5250U like yours) by
>> the specs I find online. It's also at 128 GBs.
>
> Tell yourself that if you were a Mac user, you would have no choice but 
> to bury that thing next to the family dog because it is officially 
> useless. Of course, with something like Linux Mint, it is still good in 
> 2025.
>
> On the other hand, I know that some Mac users that are still rocking 
> their 2012 machines.

The MacBook Air definitely slowed down when I upgraded from Catalina to 
Monterey. (If I had realized how quickly Monterey was going to be EOL'd I 
wouldn't have bothered.) So I tried a Live USB version of Linux Mint 
Cinnamon 22.1 last night (after figuring out I needed to use the Option key 
at boot instead of Command+R). Worked well. If the keyboard wasn't so funky 
I would probably just install Linux Mint and keep it. Maybe I will anyhow, I 
don't know. I do admit that the build on the Apple MacBooks is pretty nice. 
(Although I really got it just to test a few Apple-only applications.)

Even though the WiFi card is Broadcom, Linux Mint has no trouble installing 
a good driver for it — speed was impressive. At least on par with my 
Latitude E7450 (which is pretty good for the MacBook Air since it has half 
the RAM — I don't leave a lot open at once anyhow).

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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien