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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.szaf.org!inka.de!mips.inka.de!.POSTED.localhost!not-for-mail From: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Galveston Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:31:42 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <slrnvu327e.2t5a.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> References: <hamqtj1966uot5vvjr5a2qriaovl1jlnt4@4ax.com> <vrkj88$2b92d$1@dont-email.me> <bhmstj9bs7v8uh2ggtqgnt3n81hnqatm46@4ax.com> <slrnvtto5u.14tm.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <ikc0uj9dcgr778012jl426uurlvtpsoqtd@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:31:42 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: lorvorc.mips.inka.de; posting-host="localhost:::1"; logging-data="95403"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@mips.inka.de" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Bytes: 1967 Lines: 27 On 2025-03-23, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote: > I can clearly hear a difference, though, both in AmEng and in BrEng. > The STRUT vowel is closer to the Dutch DAK vowel (though not the > same), and the English shwa (as in ago, akin, idea, era, and in > non-rhotic better etc.) is, well, identical with the Dutch shwa. Geoff Lindsey has a lot to say on this in his blog entry STRUT ʌ, schwa ə and American English https://www.englishspeechservices.com/blog/strut-%ca%8c-schwa-%c9%99-and-american-english/ and the two videos linked from there "Schwa is never stressed" – FALSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt66Je3o0Qg Schwa /ə/ and STRUT /ʌ/ vowels in EVERY English accent (almost) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6HvF0fC1OE Also, a beautiful example of stressed schwa by Natalie Dormer in Games of Thrones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0iDuyyGYWo&t=16s "Do you want to be a queen?" -- "No. I want to be THUH queen." -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de