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From: Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de>
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: Galveston
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 16:31:42 -0000 (UTC)
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On 2025-03-23, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:

> I can clearly hear a difference, though, both in AmEng and in BrEng.
> The STRUT vowel is closer to the Dutch DAK vowel (though not the
> same), and the English shwa (as in ago, akin, idea, era, and in
> non-rhotic better etc.) is, well, identical with the Dutch shwa.

Geoff Lindsey has a lot to say on this in his blog entry

STRUT ʌ, schwa ə and American English
https://www.englishspeechservices.com/blog/strut-%ca%8c-schwa-%c9%99-and-american-english/

and the two videos linked from there

"Schwa is never stressed" – FALSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt66Je3o0Qg

Schwa /ə/ and STRUT /ʌ/ vowels in EVERY English accent (almost)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6HvF0fC1OE


Also, a beautiful example of stressed schwa by Natalie Dormer in
Games of Thrones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0iDuyyGYWo&t=16s
"Do you want to be a queen?" -- "No.  I want to be THUH queen."

-- 
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de