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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Microsoft will force Windows 11 installs to use Microsoft account Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 11:42:11 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <slrnvufn4j.3ap.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> References: <t7DFP.1770287$TBhc.240764@fx16.iad> <Ro2cnXdDc8Q9lXr6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@supernews.com> <fe2eujh24e2vsg8f9jpjss792aav10vgd9@4ax.com> <slrnvuegoq.r9s.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <o3jeujh3qcknojha9uq46it627i00gkrbg@4ax.com> Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 12:42:12 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5b0ba129af128eb42fc8c1c8a5555962"; logging-data="1309261"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/QKaDm/iNzoSocK71WGMYpKxZSZa7dAJs=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qNrltt5mvgHQJvmmIIovMNrqx20= ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.] On 2025-03-29, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> I really love how *this* [Microsoft requiring signing in to an online account, to log into Windows 11] is the deal-breaker, having to sign in to an >>> online account, OMFG what a travesty, never mind the Copilot+ >>> bullshit, never mind the ever-increasing Windows bloat, never mind >>> that your shiny new Win11 box will be outdated in four years' time. >>> Jesus Christ, people, get with Linux, before you just sell your >>> computing soul to M$. >> >>Its probably just the straw that is breaking the camels back. I was >>helping someone install Linux, and he was not wanting CoPilot and >>privacy intrusions and the like. But an online account, that is a very >>clear indication that your computer is not yours anymore. The rest of >>what you mentioned is bloatware, which was a "Feature" of Windows >>systems for years. Somewhat mandatory online accounts are a new >>paradigm though, which is why it stands out. >> >>The fact is, while it is possible to skirt around the creation of an >>online account, it is a REAL pain to do so. Quite difficult. > > > I wanted to use my M$ account to log in to Winblows when I built this > PC. It was a feature. Copilot, though, later on, was a piece of > utter garbage*, and the bloat of 23H2 was already more than I wanted > to bear. > > * I do use Copilot as a Web app in Linux, though, it's cute. > What advantages does the MS account offer? I have one for email, but thats a hold-over from the old hotmail days. In fact, I used Hotmail when it was HoTMaiL, before MS bought it.