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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET Date: 6 Apr 2025 00:14:27 GMT Organization: none-at-all Lines: 28 Message-ID: <slrnvv3hr3.g7g.spamtrap42@one.localnet> References: <3LScnf6o-ddHmXD6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m55g9gF1fe1U1@mid.individual.net> <PrWcnfSsir_Q_3P6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <m5834aFe093U2@mid.individual.net> <vLqdnVb4yaZObXP6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m58omiFguqjU3@mid.individual.net> <20250404075333.000000fc@gmail.com> <pa2dnTX2hoJwW236nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <m5c5f4F35tlU1@mid.individual.net> <gmmdnfQoUay9dW36nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> <m5dgomF9mvkU2@mid.individual.net> <X0idnaa5DI6SXGz6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> Reply-To: spamtrap42@jacob21819.net X-Trace: individual.net Tgef6+a4lG3govWzGlcNiQ35UBQGf/LZuGezZMO4I5t7O4JMhK Cancel-Lock: sha1:HvjZcY8SiemFXiFHF1InLzsuJ5Y= sha256:yKa18o1ZEyoRjTE3AoC8tGYY9TnfFPUxyZwxC0YTYKs= User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Bytes: 2401 On 2025-04-05, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > ... > > I still see debate over whether the 6502 was 'better' > than the 6809. The 6502 was envisioned as the 'improved' > 6809 by the Motorola defectors - and in some ways was. > However they also left out some registers that were > convenient to compiler writers. So, no verdict. I don't have chapter and verse to quote, but back in the day I was told that the original design of the 6502 _WAS_ superior to the 6809, but Motorola sued on a basis of IP theft or similar, and the 6502 was dumbed down by removing registers and/or crippling the indexing modes. One of the first things that struck me about the 6502's indexing and other addressing modes was that it looked/smelled crippled. Around 1980 or so, I had a short assembly program for 6502. It may have been a college assignment. Just for fun, I rewrote it for 6800 and then for 6809. Then, I counted the number of instructions in all three versions. The 6800 version used 2/3 the number of instructions as the 6502 version. The 6809 version used half of the instructions of the 6502 version. -- Robert Riches spamtrap42@jacob21819.net (Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)