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Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: WiFi enabled cable modems or WiFi routers for Linux? Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2024 15:03:34 +0300 Organization: An impatient and LOUD arachnid Lines: 23 Message-ID: <sm04j90ytt5.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi> References: <a3f720ff6401a31863b7842698132d44@www.novabbs.com> <let3naFasrbU2@mid.individual.net> <v6drhg$9l29$12@dont-email.me> <levafcFmm0qU3@mid.individual.net> <v6duqe$aj2e$4@dont-email.me> <levgrsFmm0qU4@mid.individual.net> <v6e6c6$bi73$9@dont-email.me> <lf03f3Fmm0qU6@mid.individual.net> <v6eo2p$eqk7$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2024 14:03:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5f0c5378c2735f746f036e658b6ea47d"; logging-data="921215"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+VgQlV2lgGxfO7ucEzckJe" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fPgZRv71VNSj+t6yRc6tT+BxCY8= sha1:RAYv/Zpvhxsm2fXRAYx8H8TGDtI= The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: > I take it you are not in the UK? > Perhaps the way it is regulated here is better. BT openreach have a > virtual monopoly of fibre, and twistted pair copper but they are > required to sell to any ISP who asks them Interesting. Here in Finland copper was "socialized" like that but then the telcos just screwed each other over when one tried to encroach on another's turf so it didn't work much. Bureaucrats later decided the same is not needed for fibre for some reason. Regardless, I got fibre from a provider who called it "open" so there are alternative ISPs to choose from. Recently some of them even got competetitive so I switched. So I have no hardware from the ISP, just the fibre terminal thing from the fibre provider and I connect my Debian router to it by ethernet. In recent years also, some big money investors have pushed fibre in Finland so now you can get fibre for free, mostly for detached houses since apartment buildings are mostly hooked up. Makes one wonder what happens to the prices when those investors sell their stakes in the fibre companies.