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On 2/10/25 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 20:00:10 -0500, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>>     I've always been impressed with things like baby cows and horses and
>>     even elephants. They pop out and within an hour are trotting around
>>     and acting all appropriate. Where did human ancestors go wrong ???
>>     Elephants are smart large-brained critters too - not like 'born
>>     ready'
>>     is limited to pinheaded things. NNs should aim at being E-lephants
>>     when you press the "ON" button, with a lot of How To and How To Do
>>     Better already burned in there.
> 
> That was one of the historic battles. The department head was an old
> school behaviorist so that set the tone. Chomsky though there was some
> sort of linguistic framework wired into the brain that was fleshed out by
> experience. Skinner thought it was all learned behavior.
> 
> Phylogeny versus ontogeny with culture thrown in on the side. It can be a
> minefield.

   Well ... both Chomsky and Skinner were Sort-Of right
   and Sort Of wrong.

   Even in humans, the 'pre-wiring' is already there.
   Four billion years of evo made sure of that. Think
   of it as "field testing". However 'nature' requires
   learning/training to reach its full potential.

   This is what happens when science drifts into
   "idiotologies".

   There were commie-socialists who became dedicated,
   indeed rabid, about the notion that there was no
   such thing as 'human nature' - that the moronic
   proletariat could be molded ANY way you dictated.
   A lot of Evil Stuff was done as a result.

   The flip, equally evil, notion was that 'human
   nature' was immutable. This oft devolved along
   'racial'/cultural lines. 'Blacks' would always
   be 'niggers', Indians always 'wogs', Euros
   always the 'master race' Just Because.

   'Science' can be abused as easily as most any
   other line of thinking/study/theology. The
   trick is to SEE it - and DARE to Say Something.
   The latter may NOT always be so easy ... you
   may 'accidentally fall' from a high window ....

   Maybe the latest idiocy ... "climate change".
   It has devolved into two opposing religions.
   The Truths are scattered in-between, but you
   are EXPECTED to pick a side, an extreme,
   Or ELSE.