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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <su5i3YZO2sca-t6C5k9eqwcFw4c@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: How do Universities Sell Prestigious =?UTF-8?Q?Baubles=3F?= References: <266e4dcf4bee1d0100c5716c04f2e786@www.novabbs.com> <679284FD.3ABB@ix.netcom.com> <67a111c1cd4ba39ca41fe660200ecadf@www.novabbs.com> <5e7fc5f52bd5693fabce0060ee8b91df@www.novabbs.com> <vmufi5$1r9fi$1@dont-email.me> <50d67245623f6116d399ab3a0a503fa7@www.novabbs.com> <vn1bse$2fn29$2@dont-email.me> <77bc025d62d66c76382529a996618f1b@www.novabbs.com> <GoDQLHRLhTM5HdTB9re7zXIA6qI@jntp> <e12ee11fea06d40608e18f860d9eb90f@www.novabbs.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics JNTP-HashClient: ZejfkWyszl_Dk0rYp-2TDyR2E8E JNTP-ThreadID: 266e4dcf4bee1d0100c5716c04f2e786@www.novabbs.com JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=su5i3YZO2sca-t6C5k9eqwcFw4c@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Sat, 25 Jan 25 21:23:23 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="dc5d6b352757542993c5adf6fe0364b7d017a6bf"; logging-data="2025-01-25T21:23:23Z/9186652"; posting-account="190@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Python <jp@python.invalid> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:15, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit : > On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 21:11:08 +0000, Python wrote: > >> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:05, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit >> : >>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 0:39:40 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/24/2025 2:11 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:24:04 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 1/23/2025 2:20 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:47:25 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass >>>>>>>>>> baubles. >>>>>>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic >>>>>>>>>> attain >>>>>>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for fortunes? The >>>>>>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error >>>>>>>>>> that a >>>>>>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities >>>>>>>>>> convincing >>>>>>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent, >>>>>>>>>> such as >>>>>>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and >>>>>>>>>> thoughtlessly >>>>>>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very pathetic, >>>>>>>>>> slavish, and avoidable. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by the ...'textbooks >>>>>>>>> monopoly'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A cabal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The really amusing thing is that people are intellectual weaklings who >>>>>>>> couldn't reason themselves out of a paper bag, or they wouldn't accept >>>>>>>> curved space for a second. >>>>>>> Did you ever acknowledge my point that Einstein should have understood >>>>>>> that parallel lines would have to meet for space to curve? Isn't it >>>>>>> stupid as hell not to recognize that? If he had been an honest and >>>>>>> forthright person, he would have said we have to presume that parallel >>>>>>> lines meet to claim space is curved, and this is our derivation for the >>>>>>> doubling of the Newtonian deflection. Then, every reasonable person >>>>>>> would have balked at such an irrational assumption and recognized him as >>>>>>> a foolish fellow. >>>>>> >>>>>> Think of drawing two horizontal lines on a spheres surface. They will >>>>>> never intersect. >>>>> You presume space can be treated as a surface. That is a petitio >>>>> principii. You presume it's curved to conclude it's curved. It's not a >>>>> surface and its not curved. >>>> >>>> If it was curved a bit, then I can see how two parallel lines might >>>> intersect at a point at infinity, so to speak, in a strange sense. It's >>>> strange to me. When I plot field individual lines in one of my >>>> experimental fields, they never intersect even though they twist and >>>> turn through the field... >>> Fields can curve while space cannot. >> >> "Laurence", what is your level of education in maths? Just asking. > It doesn't matter It does.