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Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2025 13:37:11 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <t3nnujhrf5hpf55aubmjnpjrh2ag4pq4mc@4ax.com> References: <vscsv4$2ub60$1@dont-email.me> <91bkujp12d558pvoseg373h4o01e1sao6i@4ax.com> <vsf16n$1a9ph$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="53154"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:vq1al+Mn5ipv6ZpoOPIbCozVKsg= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 412C922978C; Tue, 01 Apr 2025 08:37:26 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD5B6229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Tue, 01 Apr 2025 08:37:23 -0400 (EDT) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 531CbEOh3125329 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Tue, 1 Apr 2025 14:37:14 +0200 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02C27622BE for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Tue, 1 Apr 2025 12:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/02C27622BE; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id B11E1DC01CA; Tue, 1 Apr 2025 14:37:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2025 14:37:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/SBHQcHsOdQ+0oEYFFksCe+0Qg6NT5+VA= DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 5218 On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 17:24:37 -0400, Kestrel Clayton <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com> wrote: >On 31-Mar-25 02:00, jillery wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 22:00:04 -0400, Kestrel Clayton >> <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> The last day of March is the Transgender Day of Visibility, a day to >>> improve awareness of transgender people, to draw attention to the >>> challenges and oppression we face, and help people understand us better. >>> The TDoV is more important than ever in 2025, as the Trump >>> Administration has put us squarely in its target sights. >>> >>> One of the ways I can fight for my existence, and that of several of my >>> friends and loved ones, is by being visible as myself, answering >>> questions, and demystifying trans people. >>> >>> I am a transgender woman. I am visible. Ask me anything. >> >> >> While I am sympathetic to your stated goal, I would feel even more >> positive toward your OP if you made even a token effort to present it >> in a way that's on-topic to T.O.; ex. document non-binary sexual >> behavior in other species, or explain how transgender people provide >> adaptive benefits to human societies. > >I thought it might be of interest to the group generally, as >talk.origins has always had a secondary purpose of identifying and >countering authoritarian attempts to overrule science — the why of >creationism, so to speak, in addition to the how. The current >Administration's war on "gender ideology" is a cousin of creationism and >intelligent design; it's bread and circuses to keep the rubes distracted >while the oligarchs pick their pockets. > >In addition, I've been posting here on and off for 30 years now, and >many of you feel like people I've known for a very long time. Perhaps >not friends, precisely, but long-time neighbors of whom I've grown very >fond. I thought you might be interested. My sincere apologies if the >general consensus is this is inappropriate for talk.origins. Please do not take the views of Jillery or anyone else here on this as representing anything except their personal views, certainly not any general consensus. TO is indeed a well-established community where long-time posters have an interest in each other beyond science and religion and many off-topic subjects have been discussed over the years. Indeed, I think that those OT subjects have helped to keep the group alive in the general decline that has widely affected Usenet. That, of course, is simply *my* opinion!