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NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:57:48 +0000
Subject: Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome
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Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 14:57:51 -0700
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vallor wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2025 21:45:39 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in
> <m6vpo3Fd6pcU2@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 14:04:44 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <DR-dndcAYLDsOpf1nZ2dnZfqnPYAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 13:31:51 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man
>>>> <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote in <slrn100kfa7.edd.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-04-24, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> <https://www.phoronix.com/news/F43-Change-Wayland-Only-GNOME>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By GNOME 50 next year upstream could completely remove its X11
>>>>>>> session support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fortunately I can choose something NOT Fedora. If they go through
>>>>>> with this,
>>>>>> adios Fedora on the laptop I never use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Non-problem solved.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This was one of the reasons I left Fedora and went to Debian.  I had
>>>>> been tired of the frequent release cycle, and some of the politics,
>>>>> but the fact they would be earlier than other distros in deprecating
>>>>> X11 pushed me to Debian.  Nothing against Wayland per-se, but it
>>>>> breaks some X applications, and my Window Manager.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "developers" today are terrible, constantly breaking everything
>>>>> all the time.  How they feel it is acceptable to constantly break
>>>>> peoples workflows is beyond me.  Sheer arrogance.
>>>>
>>>> I stopped using Fedora when they were removing code from openssl for
>>>> which they claimed they weren't sure about a patent incumberance.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't just flags in the SRPM that disabled elliptical-curve
>>>> crypto,
>>>> they actually took the code for ECC out of openssl.
>>>>
>>>> I jumped ship to Linux Mint, and I'm much happier for it.
>>>>
>>> why
>>
>> Because when I realized Red Hat was telling the Fedora maintainers to
>> remove code from openssl, that Fedora wasn't the kind of distro I wanted
>> to run.
>>
>> I was also tired of using rpmfusion to supplement what was missing from
>> Fedora -- little things, like being able to play mp3's.
>>
>> The closest I've gotten to Fedora since then was to boot a live version
>> of Nobara, which was disastrous.  Linux Mint "just works".
> 
> Correction:  I still have an old server running Fedora.  But I'm planning
> to decommission it, and I already have the new hardware for it, a
> newer SuperMicro SuperServer.
> 
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