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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 16:46:08 +0000 Subject: Re: Wave particle duality has been disproven for photons also. Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <bee82c477b86c0caf1c30da405ed870f@www.novabbs.com> <10140pm$2huu3$1@dont-email.me> <211597acf09cc21af2125ea3c9fe12d4@www.novabbs.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 09:46:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <211597acf09cc21af2125ea3c9fe12d4@www.novabbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <tbGcnb1q7LTNcaj1nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com> Lines: 61 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-9wUhC7Y4jNOj4Oyy1yDyxf7o2B/GXs4HrP1jCFagOEpcmr8Tw0OarHFdMYchYosGvH4BFhLIEq0xAlo!v+r7N/jrfjCds7oUMFCjt8ZYwFU2ge911NkAB+YzWmNFbVU4xy4IN9p5QdJ3/QDkRgvcrkhXUOI= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 On 05/27/2025 08:49 AM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2025 9:37:57 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > >> Den 27.05.2025 05:27, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >>> Particle wave duality is no longer accepted as it has been >>> experimentally disproven. >>> >>> The question regarding photons is still disputed. >>> >>> "Did We Get the Double Slit Experiment All Wrong?" >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpMcC-E5l5c >>> >>> Light is a wave and not a particle. >> >> Got it upside down and inside out again, Laurence? :-D > You do not even attempt to be persuasive. > > > "AI Overview > The idea of wave-particle duality, often presented as a fundamental > concept in quantum mechanics, is not a widely accepted or accurate > representation of quantum phenomena. While particles can exhibit > wave-like behavior, and waves can exhibit particle-like behavior (like > photons), the core concept of wave-particle duality is often > misinterpreted and oversimplified. The wave-function, which describes > the probability of finding a particle at a given location, is not a > physical wave itself, and particles are not simply "waves" that > occasionally act as particles." > > > > "Why do Physicists talk about Wave Particle Duality? > A common question I got from my last article is why physicists still > talk > about wave particle duality if it has been invalidated by experiments. > The > truth is most professional physicists don’t talk about wave particle > duality, > and it is a dying concept. You may often hear physics popularizers talk > about wave particle duality in order to “mystify” their audience with a > heavily simplified concept. This gives viewers the false impression that > wave particle duality is still a legitimate concept, when in reality it > is not. > Historically though, wave particle duality was a thing in the early days > of > QM, but as Feynman says in one of his lectures,“The wave function ψ(r) > for an electron in an atom does not, then, describe a smeared-out > electron with a smooth charge density. The > electron is either here, or there, or somewhere else, but wherever it > is, it > is a point charge” In modern textbooks of quantum mechanics and quantum > field theory, talk of wave-particle duality is absent. Examples include > Weinberg and > Peskin and Schroeder." - "Wave Particle Duality Debunked Part 2" > > Wave particle duality is not real. It's been invalidated by experiments > so light must be a wave. Heh, naif.