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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Strobl <news5@mystrobl.de> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Direct Drive Trainer Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 12:29:57 +0200 Organization: @home Lines: 87 Message-ID: <tbrvejdrcak9283l2hpg08hihqn6ku57jq@4ax.com> References: <vchj8q$koto$1@dont-email.me> <vci0u1$mkbv$1@dont-email.me> <lj9rejh6s2tod3cs6rv25e5ee9s8lhru85@4ax.com> <vckkrf$139r2$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net zVHPqJXOxJ52TWm7dyemGQNov+ov1Im4wddw5CCrFwckA5NbT5 X-Orig-Path: mystrobl.de!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:fDDsl1ZhfK5RBDyJv/jW3IfqneM= sha256:YqXDtgLJ2k+zOtq+y9/y2TtT2Dp/OYs5FG7RxwN8k10= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 4255 Am Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:10:23 -0400 schrieb Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>: >On 9/20/2024 12:46 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: >> Am Thu, 19 Sep 2024 16:18:09 -0400 schrieb Zen Cycle >> <funkmaster@hotmail.com>: >> >>> On 9/19/2024 12:24 PM, Mark J cleary wrote: >>>> I am getting ready to buy a Tacx Direct Drive Trainer. The options are. >>>> >>>> 1 Tacx Neo 2T the top of the line >>>> 2 Tacx Fluid 2 below and less money >>>> 3 Tacc Fluid S Less money still >>>> >>>> I Can get the Fluid S easily the cheapest and should be fine. The Neo 2t >>>> is like $300 more cash but has better power accuracy and actually can >>>> work with no electricity. I have never used a direct drive trainer so >>>> anything will be an upgrade from my Saris wheel one fluid trainer. ] >>>> >>>> Does anyone have one of these and use them or have any information >>>> directly they used them or up close. Naturally I did the DC Rainmaker >>>> check he is the fitness guru with amazing information. >>> >>> I think you have the models a bit mixed up >>> >>> https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/sports-fitness/indoor-trainers/#indoorcyclingproducts >>> >>> The Neo 3M is top of the line - $2K >>> >>> The 2T is $1400 >>> >>> They don't have "Fluid" line, they have a "Flux" line >>> >>> BTW, the Flux 2 ad Flux S are on sale, greatly reduced prices. >>> >>> Flux 2 was $899, now $499 >>> >>> Flux S was $749, now $399 >>> >>> The flux S seems like the best deal. The specs show that the Flux 2 has >>> a bit more power management, but probably won't mean much if you can't >>> put out more than 1500 watts (not to make assumptions, but if you can do >>> that I'd be more than a little impressed). >>> >>> I've never used the Tacx, I've used the Kurt Kinetic, and now use the >>> Wahoo Kickr. The Kickr made indoor cycling enjoyable since I was using >>> the Wahoo RGT and Zwift platforms. I actually started looking forward to >>> my indoor workouts. >> >> >> In Germany, a Tacx NEO 2T Smart T2875 is currently available for 1160 >> EUR, including tax. That's about $1040. Two years ago, I got mine for >> 899 EUR [~$805). Our old road bikes got a second life on the NEO 2T >> as we have replaced them with newer ones. I'm quite happy with the >> device. >> >> >I bought my Kickr 2 years ago, on sale, for $799, they had been selling >for $999. It's now on the Wahoo website for $499 as the regular price. > If it is this variant <https://www.bike24.com/p2665093.html>, that was indeed a good deal. A "Wahoo KICKR BIKE 2 WIFI - Indoor Bike Trainer" currently costs 3800 € here in Germany. It would cost that much, because it is currently "out of stock". This a complete inhouse trainer, while the Tacx Neo 2T (22 kg) is a foldable direct drive trainer needing a bike in order to be useable as a trainer. A Kickr 2 is far too heavy (42 kg) for our purposes and needs too much floor space. Easier to use, on the other hand. >I'm thinking Wahoo and Tacx probably have a lot of stock left over from >the pandemic orders they need to dump in addition to pushing the newer >models. Probably. But I got mine for less money than what it costs now. > >No worries, I have no regrets paying the $799. Me neither. -- Thank you for observing all safety precautions