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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: "see? I told you it wasn't my fault" Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:37:37 -0700 Lines: 52 Message-ID: <tdljvi1uam7le435rlqb1e02hij9r2sj61@4ax.com> References: <utbmu9$3fk85$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net +LdMVwGqvuLeS6lYG1V5Bg9pa3ta1kLm3DdwKDfBggLJgtFQ9Q Cancel-Lock: sha1:xfRqgH8EQplYzOvbmpz4NJO5OEU= sha256:gDfuRJw24LOHsIBwd1ELAz+fs28GLhGpmZe8NcjeYjc= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 3305 On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 05:46:49 -0400, zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote: >Zipp finally released an analysis of the cause of the crash suffered by >Thomas De Gendt at the UAE tour last month. Yeah, hitting a big-assed >rock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ICecXdOcTY) will do that. > >https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/zipp-releases-photos-debunking-hookless-rim-failure-after-de-gendt-crash/ > >Maybe they should have followed tommy's advice and bought the cheap >chinese knock-offs. Now that the real cause has been identified, is there anyone at the UCI issuing press releases advocating the ban of carbon fiber rims, forks and frames? After all, all innovation can be dangerous and should be banned before the inevitable carnage arrives. "Danger From Carbon Fiber Bikes" (July 22, 2016). <https://www.twospoke.com/threads/danger-from-carbon-fiber-bikes.17594/> "On the way back to Castro Valley, my friend Tom Kunich (who was also riding a full carbon fiber Colnago C-40) crashed on the downhill." "WARNING! IF YOU OWN A CARBON FIBER BICYCLE THAT IS MORE THAN TWO YEARS OLD - GET RID OF IT NOW!!! IT CAN CAUSE SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH!" These remind me of the Feb 22, 2024 AT&T cellular outage, which was initially blamed on a "solar flare": <https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/02/26/att-cellphone-outage-solar-flares-fact-check/72715063007/> Yes, the first step to solving a problem really is to assign the blame. I worked for a company which practiced that no problem can be solved or even investigated without first blaming someone. Drivel: I used to think that the cheap Chinese knock-offs were junk because the factory or designers didn't have the time or money to do a proper job. That was probably true until about 2015, when I started seeing something rather different. Before 2015, such products really were junk when first release, but tended to improve over the life of the product. Now, I'm seeing the initial shipments being quite well designed and built, but later shipments tend to progress toward junk or worse. In other words, the Chinese contract manufacturers do have the talent, time and money to do it right the first time. However, once the contracts are signed and the initial reviews are posted to multiple web sites, it's now time to cut quality, reduce costs, and sell junk. It's a strange world we live in. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558