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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Ove Interest?
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 07:58:38 +0700
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2025 15:43:12 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Sun Feb 16 14:48:31 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>> On 2/16/2025 5:48 AM, John B. wrote:
>> >  
>> > well the gun in the house thing is certainly, correct.... as long as
>> > someone in the house wants to shoot you :-)
>> > 
>> > But  I suspect that many people live in houses where the other partner
>> > doesn't want to shoot his, hers, its,  partner.
>> 
>> What you posted, John, is blindingly obvious. But it avoids the point 
>> that I've made, and that data has confirmed.
>> 
>> A very large proportion of people with guns in the home say they have 
>> the gun for "protection." That is, they believe they are less likely to 
>> be subject to serious violence if they have a gun readily available.
>> 
>> The data is clear that their assumption is false. The people with guns 
>> in the house are _more_ likely to suffer serious violence, and that's 
>> true no matter where they live. The serious violence normally does not 
>> come from outsiders. It comes from someone in their own house.
>> 
>> Beyond that, the gun isn't very likely to be useful against outside 
>> aggressors, as your own personal story indicated.
>> 
>> I know you love guns, but what I've posted are the facts. You should be 
>> able to love guns while understanding that their value is highly overrated.
>
Disregarding Tom's reply, that I have erased, I wonder about Frank's
insistence that guns in homes cause home shootings? After the Swiss
have the largest number of guns in homes, in the world,  excepting the
U.S. and Yemen and almost NO home shootings.

Are Swiss guns some how different that they don't jump up and shoot
people in the home while U.S. guns are much more aggressive?
-- 
Cheers,

John B.