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From: Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Top three reasons for optimism about the ID scam
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 13:33:45 +0000
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I'm not going to repost all the crap you keep reposting as if that is
going to somehow make it better. In particular, you keep reposting the
charge against Galileo and the sentence he was given. It beats me why
you keep doing that. Galileo was charged with heresy and found guilty
of it, nobody is arguing that. The point is that it was a *trumped-up
charge* because heliocentrism was never a heresy. The Catholic Church
itself has admitted that and I have given you cites for several
esteemed historians outside of the Church who have thoroughly
investigated the affair and come to the same conclusion.

You have not found a single recognised authority who says otherwise.
All you could come up with was a largely unknown attorney who is a
geocentrist and self-appointed apostate for the Catholic Church even
though he has no known scientific, historic or theological
qualifications. You thought you had found a second site supporting you
but that site completely contradicts you, stating unequivocally that
heliocentrism being a heresy is a total myth. You accuse me of quote
mining but is you who are doing that. You quote the charge against
Galileo stated on that site as if it was supporting your argument;
they only give it to show how wrong it was.

You also try to make out that the New Advent article has been changed
in some way. It hasn't, it is and always has been an exact copy of
what was published in the Catholic Encyclopedia in 1907. If you
remember it having something different about the Index then that is
your faulty memory 

You also show a very poor grasp pf what heresy even means in the
Catholic Church. Your try to make out that it was something done
without the Pope's approval which simply can't happen; you also try to
make it out to be a "minor" heresy or not a formal one; there are no
such things. Something is either a heresy or it's not; trying to make
out otherwise is the equivalent claiming a woman is only a little bit
pregnant!