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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Wistar Symposium "Mathematical Challenge to Neo-Darwinism". Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:28:35 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 11 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <tkpk6jh1v48pd5b4c6bnc0l8e3vctdbi98@4ax.com> References: <lmvq5j15rbj2gkn7m8v65e30msc5cop6ip@4ax.com> <VIQ7O.49803$gn%7.7719@fx12.iad> <csn06j1ov4rqiri18foqc64676pdinva7n@4ax.com> <mA08O.93013$G7Za.38089@fx10.iad> <ons56j9c0rgglqan8rf0m2i8muqm3oatmi@4ax.com> <fDF8O.3$46t.0@fx46.iad> <5sm76jlrljfct3b1mdqfqfakpd0iu4efgm@4ax.com> <Ni39O.74$y8j1.34@fx05.iad> <g4ia6j9hjujaspsmjn7hnb2ssf54b13bmr@4ax.com> <cen9O.562$9d36.301@fx13.iad> <prhf6jd3qtvk2a4mu5ptj6qpupjlcaasrv@4ax.com> <9foaO.3961$eX68.449@fx18.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="13893"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:UFapaLLXkM0h8FNnyTvAS0evtdc= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 24BC2229870; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 23:28:39 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C714122986E for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 23:28:36 -0400 (EDT) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from <news@eternal-september.org>) id 1sHb8q-000000015uy-2Utd; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 05:28:48 +0200 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1F8F5F72C for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 03:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/D1F8F5F72C; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=the.noodle Authentication-Results: name; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=eternal-september.org id 6E490DC01A9; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 05:28:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 05:28:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19VordnUvBYPm+chqiYXFWDy/35bpcZN1o= HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3272 Ron Dean wrote: > Biological things are designoid: ‘Designoid > objects that look designed, so much so that some people – probably, > alas, most people – think that they are designed. Then again, there are your designoid objects that clearly look evolved. Like bird feet that evolved for different lifestyles, all from scaly dinosaur feet. Ron, you've got to know your designoid objects better.