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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Job Offer
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:54:45 -0400
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 14:11:27 +0100, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:

>Am 21.03.2025 um 22:11 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:05:24 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/21/2025 4:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 2:23 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:20:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 8:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2025 11:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the far right still maintains its world view by ignoring
>>>>>>>>>> all relevant facts it dislikes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An universal trait, across all ideologies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I strongly disagree. "Univeral" seems to imply "everybody" of "all
>>>>>>>> ideologies." I think complete dismissal of facts is far, far more
>>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>>> on the right.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's more common universally is to disagree on the relative
>>>>>>>> importance
>>>>>>>> of various bits of data. And there were long periods in U.S. history
>>>>>>>> when that was the main subject of disputes - which data set is more
>>>>>>>> significant? Which facts should get more attention? Which issues are
>>>>>>>> more important?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We're far beyond that now, at least with the right wing. Once a Trump
>>>>>>>> administration invented "alternative facts" verifiable data went
>>>>>>>> out the
>>>>>>>> window. The right now has a strong tendency to blatantly invent
>>>>>>>> "facts"
>>>>>>>> to justify its ideas. Vance essentially confessed to that, regarding
>>>>>>>> small town Ohio pets being eaten by immigrants, claiming it was OK to
>>>>>>>> "create stories" - IOW, outright lie. Musk is "finding" billions and
>>>>>>>> billions of dollars of fraud that regularly disappears whenever anyone
>>>>>>>> else looks into the details.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your efforts today are less blatant, but related: "Here's _one_
>>>>>>>> glacier
>>>>>>>> that grew, so we should ignore the immense worldwide shrinking of
>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>> all glaciers." And "Land here is slowly sinking, so we should ignore
>>>>>>>> worldwide satellite measurements showing oceans rising."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recall hearing that Joe Biden is so sharp that his staff can't keep
>>>>>>> up with him.  That Trump went to Russia and had women pee on him. That
>>>>>>> there was choice but to pack up and leave Afghanistan the way it was
>>>>>>> done.  That there was no way to close the border without Congressional
>>>>>>> action. That Hunter Biden would not be pardoned. (etc)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both sides lie. Both sides make up "Facts." Both sides fund their pet
>>>>>>> projects. Both sides are crooks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Speaker Pelosi to Congress
>>>>>>> "We need to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it."
>>>>>
>>>>> Leave it to the dumbass to intentionally conflate politics with science.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dishonesty may be among our smaller problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ms Pelosi also said (clearly and correctly) that Mr Biden could not
>>>>>> waive student loans without an Act of Congress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Merely being truthful and correct had no affect on what actually
>>>>>> happened, as Mr Biden bragged about subsequently defying the direct
>>>>>> Supreme Court ruling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, he didn't. He said "we'll have to find another way to do it".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And then continued anyway, misusing a 'special cases' provision for
>>>> large classes of borrowers.
>>>>
>>>> People (me) who worked two jobs to pay tuition at retail in cash were
>>>> miffed at least.
>>>
>>> Must have felt the same way my cousin did when the drinking age in
>>> Massachusetts was lowered to 18 the day after he turned 21.
>>>
>>> That's not the way life turns sometimes - I learned to live with it.
>>>
>>> My loans were paid off long ago, but I thought student loan forgiveness
>>> was a great idea, and still do. One of the reasons this country lags in
>>> education is that we make it hard to get one. It's why Musk wants to
>>> keep the H1B program going, and convinced trump to make it so - couple
>>> that with this asinine thought that the government shouldn't be involved
>>> in education, and it's no wonder American companies need to have foreign
>>> students.
>>>
>>> It's smacks of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
>> 
>> Plumbers, truck drivers, and construction workers paying off college
>> graduates' loans. Well of course.....
>
>
>By the way: most tax income is from the rich 1% rather than the other 
>99%.  Do you know any trucker who has to pay a few millions in tax?

Top 1% paid 45.8% of the taxes in 2021. 
https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/latest-federal-income-tax-data-2024/


>In other countries, plumbers, truck drivers and construction workers 
>just pay for "free tuition".  Is that better?

Plumbers, truck drivers, and construction workers still pay income
taxes.

--
C'est bon
Soloman