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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Calibrating a battery without Android launched Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 19:26:18 -0500 Organization: Usenet Elder Lines: 48 Sender: V@nguard.LH Message-ID: <tpylc9br04p1.dlg@v.nguard.lh> References: <XnsB320840B1AF61F3QA2@135.181.20.170> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net B9DuwyTxk+jPWvSoOQxPMgW/h7Nou17VKkmVi6r2WOvAN8r9cS Keywords: VanguardLH,VLH Cancel-Lock: sha1:PS+aCND9i/waDQC6/kl+Jnvw4As= sha256:CA0G+dq4/1eKWIEvszVlgCWRzgXbijzesQAtoqyaceM= User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41 Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote: > Is it necessary to have launched Android while charging a battery to 100% > as part of the re-calibration process? > > (Android would be launched for the re-calibration step when running the > battery down). Without using a 3rd-party app, battery recalibration for Android entails charging to 100%, leave it charging for 2 hours more even though the phone says 100%, discharge the phone until it turns itself off (when Android or the battery turns off the phone, not some battery management app), and recharge while not using the phone to 100% again. If the phone has a battery protection mode (e.g., Samsung), disable it when cycling the battery. The only reliable means on knowing how much maximum capacity a battery can hold is not via voltage, but by charging to full, and counting Coulombs on discharge (until the protection circuitry within the battery halts current output). That is highly impractible for mobile devices as the testing equipment is very expensive. So, phones and laptops rely on measuring voltage, but voltage is a measure of potential, or electrical pressure, not on capacity. Battery capacity is very inaccurately measured in portable devices. All calibration does is measure voltage difference between fully charged to fully (or near fully) discharged; however, capacity is not linerally consumed. Mobile devices detect voltage at "full" charge, voltage at full discharge, and plot a linear interpolation between the two. But capacity is not linear. Batteries are chemical, not mechanical. For example, you could have a phone that says there is 30% capacity left for its battery, and it stays powered up for hours thereafter. Another phone will say it has 30% capacity, but shuts down in 15 minutes. The battery's voltage does not indicate a weak battery that doesn't have the same capacity at the same voltage as another battery. The older the battery, the more worn its chemistry, the faster a battery will drop in capacity, because an old battery cannot hold as many Coulombs of energy as a new battery. With a new battery, my phone can stay up even when the phone says capacity is down to 5%. With the old battery, when the phone got to 15% capacity, poof, off went the phone. No amount of charge cycling could make the old battery perform like a new one. Batteries die. You can't pour as much beer back into a can that gets crushed over time, so you can't get as much beer out of a smaller can. The beer may taste the same, but the can has less capacity. We don't know hold old is your beer can to know how much it has been crushed over time. You can try the recalibration procedure, but you won't get more capacity.