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Subject: Re: ABC settles "rape" claim re: Pres. Elect.
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 10:25:53 -0500
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On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:45:40 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On 12/21/2024 10:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:18:31 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 12/20/2024 7:07 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:24:55 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/19/2024 7:29 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 07:50:15 -0800, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/18/2024 4:28 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:57:19 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/17/2024 7:31 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 12:40:22 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/16/2024 7:22 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 16:54:39 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Snuffalapogous had stated Mr. Trump (not President
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at that time) had been found guilty of "rape", when, well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we all know the legal technicalities and definition and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific legal issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not say "guilty".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 	that rape by a jury. It's been affirmed by a judge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The NBC Blue Network will pay $15 million to... his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presidential library...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-abc-george-stephanopoulos-lawsuit-defamation-b2664508.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not buying what the judge wrote last year that the plaintiff proved
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rape" as commonly understood by the public even though no rape had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> occurred using the legal definition of "rape". The jury was asked to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make a specific finding of "rape" and they said no. She still won the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> case on other points even if not on that point. The judge was wrong to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> second guess the jury here on the finding they made on a specific set of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>       From your cited article:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "�Donald Trump has been found liable for defaming the victim of that
>>>>>>>>>>>> rape by a jury,� Stephonopoulos said on ABC�s This Week at the time.
>>>>>>>>>>>> �It�s been affirmed by a judge.�
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Juries in New York found Trump liable for defaming and sexually
>>>>>>>>>>>> abusing E Jean Carroll after he repeatedly called her a liar for
>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking publicly about allegations that he assaulted her in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1990s. Trump has appealed the nearly $90 million in judgments against
>>>>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Last year, the judge overseeing those cases wrote that Carroll�s
>>>>>>>>>>>> failure to �prove that she was �raped� within the meaning of the New
>>>>>>>>>>>> York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr Trump
>>>>>>>>>>>> �raped� her as many people commonly understand the word �rape.��
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> �Indeed, as the evidence at trial ... makes clear, the jury found that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr Trump in fact did exactly that,� US District Judge Lewis Kaplan
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly Trump has a case against the judge as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What redeeming aspect of Trump's character did George falsely besmirch?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you need the facts of ABC admitted lie explained to you, you're not
>>>>>>>>>> worth the bytes it would take.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your President-elect forcibly finger fucked her.  Explain *that* fact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump was not convicted of rape.  ABC said he was.  They lied.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> End of story.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other jurisdictions it's considered rape/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one cares.  He was charge and found not guilty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> End of story.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you're right that not many care about the technical 'not guilty'.
>>>>
>>>> It's not technical.  It's fact.  Trying to spin otherwise is engaging
>>>> in technicalities.
>>>
>>> It's a fact that NY law makes a misleading technical distinction.
>>>
>> 
>> Laughter.
>> 
>> Go ahead and explain it for us.
>
>We think you don't really want an explanation.
>

It's your claim.  If you can't explain it, then we all understand that
you're lying.