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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Disc's without power Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 05:47:55 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 79 Message-ID: <tqg32khecqt541bhke5c20j9no4r5drgrt@4ax.com> References: <m7f92cFspm0U1@mid.individual.net> <f_RQP.3$AMia.1@fx40.iad> <g2b81kttuidlkboilg6u87vs7prmgd2clh@4ax.com> <d27RP.9750$Ghwb.1046@fx10.iad> <vv338v$1d568$5@dont-email.me> <m8qRP.99606$J0J2.76977@fx18.iad> <vv7gui$3hugv$2@dont-email.me> <m54f1k9hec1ac9nkv8h38m5f82ig05q71b@4ax.com> <XJaUP.210243$lbbb.77504@fx18.iad> <lis22kdb60r385s4k1fnmt780r976c7ucr@4ax.com> <vvs0ca$tm04$5@dont-email.me> <4v232kpp5eovb4pkmgs2f2kidv7uq37m3n@4ax.com> <ee532kpm619u9sg533sfva4f97jo7ucpge@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 11:47:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8bb534c0228b1e96093b6ab2f7a84c95"; logging-data="1090626"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18YxrUtHQJNii1Zlm/F4WQQWRV3MfDmkgg=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Oz1KkIuLsFiBrfbfTD5GQXCXcb4= Bytes: 4828 On Sun, 11 May 2025 23:42:26 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote: >On Sun, 11 May 2025 23:26:26 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >wrote: > >>On Mon, 12 May 2025 01:19:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski >><frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote: >> >>>I think Jeff's right. The notion of cars parked at the curb in Gary, IN >>>but surrounded by forests of green weeds is pretty weird. So are the >>>forests of weeds growing through pavement in other images. >> >>Yes. What immediately caught my attention was how similar almost all >>of the 50 houses were. Similar sky, similar weeds, similar debris, no >>broken or boarded windows, almost identical road types, and so on. It >>wasn't obvious just looking at one image, but after skimming all of >>them, the commonality is disturbingly obvious. Putting all the images >>on one page makes it easier to compare: >><https://www.google.com/search?q=https%3A%2F%2Fmoneyinc.com%2F50-worst-places-to-live-in-the-u-s%&udm=2> >>(click on "see more anyway" at bottom page). Some of the buildings >>look like they were made from the same cookie cutter template. >> >>>I do wonder how she got the fake images. I doubt a hack journalist >>>would do them herself. Are there people one can hire cheaply to do such >>>work? >> >>Yes. She designed them using one of several AI engines. For example: >> >>"Design your dream home with our AI House Generator! Create detailed >>house designs, from layout to aesthetics." >><https://openart.ai/generator/house> >> >>More: >><https://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20design%20a%20house%20with%20AI&udm=7> >> >>I spent some time with several generative AI "drawing" tools trying to >>design a realistic bicycle. I got futuristic bicycles instead, but I >>think I could have produced something useful eventually. >> >>Go to Microsoft Edge browser and Copilot. Ask the AI to: >>"Draw a bicycle with the latest technology" >>That produced this: >><https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.8f0b7f05-233b-4d83-951b-d4aef1694ac7.png> >>and this: >>"add pedals, headlight, and downtube shifter" >><https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.f5db522a-f193-4184-be10-b29fb87b45de.png> >>The image is too dark, so I made it brighter: >>"brighten picture" >><https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.aaa0ff44-6c47-4e2c-89f0-5cce70f64c9d.png> >>Oops, I should have said "brighten bicycle": >>"undo" followed by "brighten bicycle" >><https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.9b98ddfe-2a4d-4b90-ab26-28627ae37a09.png> >>Also wrong, but I think you get the idea. > >Notice what the AI though "downtube shifters" look like. Hardly >realistic and on the wrong tube. Similar problems with pedals and >headlight. > >This is my first (and last) attempt to produce a run down >neighborhood, like in the original article. Amazingly similar, >methinks: >"draw a run down urban row of stores, with thick grass growing along >the sidewalk, some graffiti on the walls, and a trash bin in front of >one house" ><https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.efcaba9c-45d8-48b2-96fc-7b4f953ac4ed.png> >Notice the similar sky compared to the original article. >"brighten the buildings" ><https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.a3de4530-e4a6-40a0-8d13-8c22026c1f5b.png> > >Starting to look familiar? I suspect such garbage will be quite >common, especially because it doesn't require signed photo release >forms. Most of those pictures look terribly fake. -- C'est bon Soloman