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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: cyclists attack auto driver Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2024 13:12:21 -0700 Lines: 50 Message-ID: <ttnsbj185hefogpma6bf8avjkcpi6e4t80@4ax.com> References: <c94pbj5hg3f86m59482mevetosqfqhgiim@4ax.com> <v9ipps$hqr9$1@dont-email.me> <natpbjpflimtqa3k1p3dfrmkkd27ih9l0r@4ax.com> <bkiqbjlutis6dcl8ika0t0i8l70125sa18@4ax.com> <aklrbjl45g43p45kdur66099751466pmfi@4ax.com> <v9ktff$3t7dn$6@dont-email.me> <v9l5dh$10a85$1@dont-email.me> <427sbjpl85qb9v28m4s8ihqj335so892n9@4ax.com> <v9l8st$10sp6$1@dont-email.me> <roasbjhu3ibopvk8a8je20fl7vgal25pdk@4ax.com> <0bcsbjt8h8skpf8ou65tnecng2qj1acpla@4ax.com> <v9lcql$11ai1$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net pPX5oHTSQOk7R6mV4hoXAgpcCM+kSOjiBSEkmZ5dlO04kXgXo2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:PkSPhZhj+x0ftlFoepizgjn+QGY= sha256:yML1oFVGLUgjjNBgJFH8WgE3h5XcDbM/pdSxNf8SKjw= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 2965 On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 12:10:47 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 8/15/2024 11:57 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 12:38:35 -0400, Catrike Ryder >> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 11:03:42 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>> Usenet changed my ALT-259 heart into a question mark. >> >> Usenet messages are all 7 bit characters. Most (not all) of the alt >> characters are 8 bit, which are replaced by a question mark >> >>> I know how to use acii characters in computer code, but I've never >>> done it in regular text. >> >> See: >> <https://www.alt-codes.net/how_to_use_alt_codes/> >> <https://www.alt-codes.net> >> When I cut-n-paste these 8 bit characters from a document into a text >> editor or word processor, it appears correctly. However, when I >> pasted them into a newsreader (Forte Agent), it sometimes appears >> correctly on my screen, but when I read the message as posted, it >> produces a question mark or black square. >> >> Try some of the other hearts and see what happens: >> >> Heart alt-codes: >> <https://www.alt-codes.net/heart_alt_code.php> >> >> > >Thanks. >Here's an ALT-3 > >? It shows as a single question mark. If you want, I can sniff the NNTP traffic with Wireshark, between my computah and my service provider and see what is actually sent to my ISP. If it's a question mark, then the change is being made in whatever program you're using for reading Usenet news. If it's something else, the change might happen at the ISP (although I doubt it). -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558