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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Whither Oxyaena? Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2024 12:33:01 -0500 Organization: What are you looking for? Lines: 57 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <u4d6lj9edcbdt6m4k1fc1rrimog3benih8@4ax.com> References: <vi79m5$188g$1@dont-email.me> <dpjukjt2kb2so8lench113asmmopupoa8k@4ax.com> <oskukj1m0o87paj7p0rubv5hhm813vi4bs@4ax.com> <vinqta$bai9$2@dont-email.me> <h251ljlgh27nh2uqrkjq8fjtgcjfg4nje0@4ax.com> <9ef63f8e-ebaa-4d13-9a6d-d8fc7132097a@gmail.com> <viq94l$11lk0$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="73961"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:sJpGgsRgPicFykZOY22Mzdwlsks= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 2C612229782; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 12:33:11 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C11AB229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Fri, 06 Dec 2024 12:33:08 -0500 (EST) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 4B6HX5Wh1783200 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 6 Dec 2024 18:33:05 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36A155F8D2 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 6 Dec 2024 17:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/36A155F8D2; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id BCE0EDC01A9; Fri, 6 Dec 2024 18:33:02 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2024 18:33:02 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/McUkAx18t0/tZLpdQUjmc+ClaoPyiQQs= HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 4872 On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:04:54 -0500, Kestrel Clayton <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com> wrote: >On 04-Dec-24 13:03, erik simpson wrote: >> On 12/4/24 9:45 AM, Martin Harran wrote: >>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 15:49:46 -0500, Kestrel Clayton >>> <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 03-Dec-24 13:54, Martin Harran wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 03 Dec 2024 18:34:31 +0000, Martin Harran >>>>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>> Glenn was exceptionally nasty >>>>>> to her about the whole thing. >>>>> >>>>> Bad choice of words ... nothing exceptional about Glenn being nasty= :( >>>> >>>> I presume you meant "Exceptionally nasty even by the exceptionally = nasty >>>> standards of Glenn." >>>> >>>> (Glenn's posting history shows decades of slowly growing angrier and >>>> more paranoid. I feel a little sorry for the guy, even though I know >>>> it's at least partly self-inflicted.) >>> >>> Towards the end of the 'old' TO, I began to take the notion that = Glenn >>> might be a sock puppet for Nyikos. Despite some indicators, I didn't >>> have enough evidence to call it out and I also doubted whether Nyikos >>> actually was capable of being able to maintain such a level of >>> subterfuge for so long. >>> >> I believe Nyikos and Glenn were separate cranks, neither sock puppets = of=20 >> anyone else. > >Yeah, my bellyfeel is that they were separate people. Peter Nyikos was=20 >already pretty spiteful; I don't know that it would have made sense to=20 >create a sock puppet just to be abusive when he was already doing that=20 >on main. Besides, Dr. Nyikos clearly wanted to be seen as formidably=20 >intellectual, which very much ran counter to Glenn's style. > >I suppose it's not impossible he rolled a sock puppet just so he could=20 >post the occasional smugly lowbrow "Says you" and "Neener neener," but=20 >if he had, I doubt he would have been able to resist praising himself=20 >with it, or rushing to his own defense when challenged. I recall several instances where Nyikos jumped in the middle of topics, without saying anything about their substance, just to give Glenn moral support. --=20 To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge