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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Extensive article on Rivendell and Grant Petersen Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 15:44:17 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <u8ebfjljd8cg068gp0i063nlu4c3f9t8l3@4ax.com> References: <IbWHO.21156$MxR.18519@fx47.iad> <vcpiki$29eeg$1@dont-email.me> <vcpu65$2ausd$2@dont-email.me> <vcqif4$2hoq2$1@dont-email.me> <VEfIO.1095856$azJ4.449168@fx16.ams4> <vcsa02$2q622$1@dont-email.me> <eid5fjluv7j6qmp87vmnv99vpcts2lfe5m@4ax.com> <vcujsc$37v5r$2@dont-email.me> <0ue8fj5a6brvfb6bv8pl0f90peuor4tfiv@4ax.com> <vd215l$3q9f4$1@dont-email.me> <vd2ht1$1eb5$2@dont-email.me> <TebJO.4744$jVLc.3800@fx15.ams4> <vd48o9$anap$4@dont-email.me> <vd4d8m$bkc2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 21:44:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="11768548f7dafd5eebe26fe22a4ff44d"; logging-data="382459"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19RdcBLTTrPtk0PedN85PDiEJH/1loMEZQ=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1MwfIRoCmGtl3aLR7t+OftrPgjk= Bytes: 3094 On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 14:39:03 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 9/26/2024 1:22 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 9/26/2024 7:06 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>> >>> Hydraulic system being in someways simpler ie only >>> mechanical moving parts >>> are the pistons and the levers and sealed from grot so >>> will work even if >>> completely clogged up. >> >> I thought the pad retraction depended on the proper flexing >> of a rubber ring or seal; and I thought I came across a >> video detailing the need for cleaning that stuff inside the >> caliper to maintain proper retraction. Am I remembering >> wrong? ISTM that without some such mechanism, removing >> hydraulic pressure would still leave the pads lightly >> scuffing the disc. >> >>> Extremely easy to live with change pads every so often, >>> for my uses less >>> often than rim pads which just get eaten by the slop. >> >> Your use must be unusual. My rim brake shoes seem to last >> decades. And I've mentioned the Warm Showers guest whose >> disc pads surprised hiim by wearing out on a hilly northern >> Pennsylvania tour. >> >> At least with rim brakes, shoe wear is easily visible. >> > >The systems are just different. Disc pads are readily >observed in place for wear depth and change easily without >disturbing any adjustments. Damaged piston seals are >possible yes, but in practice uncommon. The system is >heavier but allows more tire/mudguard clearance AEBE. >Different, but neither is compelling IMHO. Both systems >work well for many riders. I can check my brake pads in bright sunlight or with a small flashlight. -- C'est bon Soloman