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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: 1972 Legnano in the news Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 16:52:43 +0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <u901jj1guuah443rk1fu17mbup9b21u0mk@4ax.com> References: <vgmf32$3ebok$1@dont-email.me> <vgmka9$3f32b$4@dont-email.me> <vgo1a0$3rpj5$1@dont-email.me> <8ncvijlu04i6u3ujr5454a6t4sciab6pud@4ax.com> <vgojai$3vdgi$1@dont-email.me> <vgp7fl$2sh5$3@dont-email.me> <f5v0jj5rspgmdkm0j0ivuk5oesfcf3i1q7@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:52:46 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e17c6c2201af6572833cac3c27f46f2e"; logging-data="356380"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+w1o6+RGTjCeinyITHiCWkX+A3q5vLCtc=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xLd9kwMT9SDkh6y5Z+TsHK/EXMk= Bytes: 3426 On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 04:28:34 -0500, Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 21:57:56 -0500, Frank Krygowski ><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>On 11/9/2024 4:13 PM, Mark J cleary wrote: >>> >>> I always wear a helmet and if you don't want to wear one it is free >>> county, don't wear one. I am not about to argue just that I wear a helmet. >> >>Since this is a discussion group, when you make a statement like >>"Generally it is much safer to wear a helmet" you can expect it to be >>discussed. There's ample data available calling your statement into >>question. Wolfgang knows this. > >I have no problems with someone believing and saying "generally it is >much safer to wear a helmet. I think it's ridiculous to argue >otherwise. It's total nonsense to claim that it's generally safer to >not wear a helmet; therefore..... > >I believe it'd also be true of riding a motorcycle, riding in a motor >vehicle, or even riding a horse. It seems to me that when doing >something where a head injury is possible, a helmet would lessen the >risk of it. > >The issue, of course, is not whether or not it's safer to wear a >helmet, but whether or not an individual is willing to accept the >discomfort and hassle of wearing a helmet. > >It seems to me that it should be a subjective decision and it makes no >sense to argue anything other than about the legal right to make that >decision. > >Some people favor a nanny government. I do not. > > Well... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8909479/ An average of 247 traumatic brain injury deaths and 140,000 head injuries among children and adolescents younger than 20 years were related to bicycle crashes each year in the United States. As many as 184 deaths and 116,000 head injuries might have been prevented annually if these riders had worn helmets. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214140518302731 Head injury was the secondary cause of death for 269 cyclists, 1324 pedestrians and 1046 drivers, accounting for 46%, 42% and 25% of road travel deaths at all ages in each mode respectively. Head injury was the commonest cause of death in cyclists, but most pedestrian and driver deaths were from multiple injuries. -- Cheers, John B.