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On 4/30/24 05:57, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
>> bad sector, 2024-04-30 01:40:
> [...]
>>> There has been a bit of misunderstanding since my OP in which I raised
>>> two issues. When I said "they only thought were OFF" I obviously meant
>>> 'on-hook' although an unwanted power-on state could in and of itself
>>> also kill you in the wrong situation. After that MY workaround of
>>> powering off TO ASSURE THAT IT IS ON-HOOK clouded the issue I think, but
>>> both issues remain IMO extremely important all the time.
>>
>> I see - you refer to the question if there is a phone call still active
>> or unintentially started. Yes, unfortunately, smartphones usually don't
>> have dedicated "hang up" keys any longer except special models intended
>> to be used by older or disabled people.
> 
>    Are these scenarios even possible?
> 
>    (AFAIK,) For a still active phone call: If the remote party 'hangs
> up', the connection is terminated and the local phone will be 'on hook'
> again.

Once (when we were all driving used Chevvy-II's and Pintos with babies 
in cribs or child seats) my sister-in-law got a call from her dad 
telling her that they were welcome to visit any time (he lived on the 
coast). She and her husband were very happy to hear that. But the old 
fart kept failing to hang-up so several minutes after that call one of 
them picked up the phone only to hear him say to someone physically 
beside him "the Rockafellers are coming visiting".

A phone is also an emergency device, I'm not sure how I would call 911 
with a hand also holding by belt as a tourniquet on the other arm, 
busted up.

We need helluva more brains and bandwidth is the design and developmenmt 
bureaus, les freakin' eye-candy and hype and more robust controls and 
unmistakable feedback.