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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Adam Funk <a24061@ducksburg.com> Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,sci.lang Subject: Re: Somewheres Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 16:31:42 +0100 Organization: $CABAL Lines: 31 Message-ID: <ub2hqkx9pl.ln2@news.ducksburg.com> References: <vatljd$mjf9$1@dont-email.me> <pan$446ac$ba5dac04$67ebf9e0$47ac5644@gmail.com> <vb0a62$170hl$1@dont-email.me> <pan$6cdcd$a1e57e8a$8ebe27ea$32af951f@gmail.com> <f5140de8d161885842798961deb38a46@www.novabbs.com> <m31q2260rz.fsf@leonis4.robolove.meer.net> <vb4ejj$2rvka$1@dont-email.me> X-Trace: individual.net h1UA74UZmQfnxg7DDZhqQgnTk+oMhoPNT2uLg2dv4hmkCyFtrG X-Orig-Path: news.ducksburg.com!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:WlM+L/26j8qfdHtG78W0hXMgMQA= sha1:u+MPAKV/+DWrZiAIG/8m+sBYWQw= sha256:qP56gD9zVG8BuOYHJebaF670NwbU9Z+rT7baa7+ivEU= User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.4-6 (Linux) Bytes: 2413 On 2024-09-02, Peter Moylan wrote: > Crossposted to sci.lang, where people might know the answer. > > Is there a natural tendency for languages to lose final syllables or > final consonants? This thread has provided examples in Spanish. French > lost a lot of final consonants (in speech, but not in writing) centuries > ago. Some southern Italian dialects have dropped a few final vowels, but > this does not extend to northern dialects or the mainstream version of > the language. Portuguese seems to drop all sorts of things. > > Those are all examples in Romance languages. I can't think of any > examples in Germanic languages, and I don't know enough about other > language families. > > The well-known example in English is the "dropped g", which reduces an > -ing ending to -@n. But that's not actually the dropping of a consonant, > it's the replacement of one consonant by another. The average English > speaker doesn't notice that, because we're not used to thinking of "ng" > as a single consonant. The -ing suffix in Modern English is a fusion of two Old English suffixes, one similar to German -ung & the other to German -end. I'm not sure of the extent to which that encouraged the development of the current -in'/-ing situation. -- With the breakdown of the medieval system, the gods of chaos, lunacy, and bad taste gained ascendancy. ---Ignatius J Reilly