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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Repeating decimals are irrational Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 22:17:56 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <utvvkk$35q21$2@i2pn2.org> References: <e9009d933dc0c3008201ba6cfced892d235192c8.camel@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:17:56 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3336257"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <e9009d933dc0c3008201ba6cfced892d235192c8.camel@gmail.com> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2191 Lines: 32 On 3/26/24 10:45 AM, wij wrote: > Snipet from https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber-en.txt/download > > ... > Real Nunmber(ℝ)::= {x| x is represented by n-ary <fixed_point_number>, the > digits may be infinitely long } > > Note: This definition implies that repeating decimals are irrational number. > Let's list a common magic proof in the way as a brief explanation: > (1) x= 0.999... > (2) 10x= 9+x // 10x= 9.999... > (3) 9x=9 > (4) x=1 > Ans: There is no axiom or theorem to prove (1) => (2). > > Note: If the steps of converting a number x to <fixed_point_number> is not > finite, x is not a ratio of two integers, because the following > statement is always true: ∀x,a∈ℚ, x-a∈ℚ > > ---End of quote > > So, if 10 * 0.999... isn't 9.999... what is it? and if 9 + 0.999... isnt 9.999... what is it? And why aren't the same numbers the same numbers. So, either your "wij-Reals" just fail to have the normal mathematical operations defined or you have a problem with the proof. Numbers defined with no rules on how to manipulate them are fairly worthless.