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From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-04-18 (Thursday)
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:23:45 -0400
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 20:09:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:56:09 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/19/2024 7:59 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 05:38:44 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I watched another animated flick JUSTICE LEAGUE vs THE FATAL FIVE
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In this movie we have a trio of bad guys from the future travel into
>>>>>>> the past to free two of their group that are trapped in a prison in
>>>>>>> the time of the Justice League. A hero from the future also manages to
>>>>>>> travel into the past to stop them but he has a fatal weakness. He
>>>>>>> needs regular doses of a drug or else he tends to forget who he is. A
>>>>>>> drug that doesn't exist in the JL time. So he forgets most of his
>>>>>>> mission other than that there is a Fatal Five and that he needs to
>>>>>>> find the Limelight before getting locked away in a mental institution.
>>> 
>>> Is it new that he’s insane? For that matter is it new that Jessica Cruz is
>>> insane?
>>> 
>> 
>> I don't know. Not familiar with either of those characters. Perhaps
>> they were introduced to the comics after I quit reading them. Much
>
>Star Boy has been around since 1961. :-) Originally he had all of Superboy
>powers plus the ability to increase the mass of objects to get around the
>duplicate powers rule. Somewhere along the line, he lost the Superboy
>powers wiki says he’s gone through several incarnations and costume changes
>and race swaps. Apparently he’s been insane since the 2006 version which is
>well after I stopped reading the Legion.

Hmm, don't recall ever having heard of him. If he was just in Legion
books then that might explain it. I was never a huge comic book fan as
I just didn't have the money to buy more than a rare comic book when I
was young enough to really want to read them. Then as I got older I
was more into reading science fiction books. So the only comics I've
read in decades were those that JMS joined in on.

>Jessica Cruz has only been around for 10 years, long after I stopped
>reading the Legion. I was puzzled as to why I knew who she was until I
>finally recalled that someone I know cosplay as her 
Good reason to remember the character.

>Wikipedia says that this was a fairly faithful version, except that it was
>darkseid that Smashed her ring and killed her and the ring brought her back
>more powerful than before

So if the ring can do that why didn't it do it for anyone else?

>
>> like with Hal Jordan turning truly evil in that other animated flick.
>> That was never my Hal Jordan.
>
>I actually remember that from the comics, but yeah, that was not my Hal
>Jordan either

So they actually did that in the comics? Nothing like destroying a
beloved character. Guess that was a new writer pissing on the ground
to mark his new territory.


>
>> 
>>>>>>> The story then proceeds from there as the trio of bad guys proceed to
>>>>>>> do bad things.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll leave the rest of the story for your enjoyment when watching the
>>>>>>> flick as it's a good story. There are some bits that didn't make sense
>>>>>>> within the story like an axe that can cut Superman but doesn't cut
>>>>>>> Wonder Woman's sword but it was still an enjoyable watch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wonder Woman's sword is magic and blessed by Hephaestus.  I guess
>>>>>> Hephaestus is tougher than the Persuader.  Nominally the atomic ax can cut
>>>>>> through anything.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, *nothing* cuts or breaks that lasso. Period!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would watch this but once again nothing is free on Apple TV. $3.99 to
>>>> rent, $12.99 to buy.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The gray web to the rescue! Thank you, Al Gore.
>>> 
>>> This was OK. It wasn’t as good as the newer stuff that I’ve praised that
>>> looks to be 3-D for 2-D. But it balances that out by having the older voice
>>> cast.
>>> 
>>> I’m completely confused by the continuity. The justice league that had
>>> Supergirl certainly knew about the Legion. But these guys don’t.
>>> 
>>> I take it we actually see the end of the green lantern corp in this movie.
>> 
>> We don't know why it ends but they clearly aren't around in this
>> future.
>> 
>>> I don’t know who the Legion we see at the end of the movie is, but it’s
>>> certainly not the Legion we saw the beginning. Jessica Cruz thanks for them
>>> for coming to the funeral because the dead guy thought so highly of them.
>>> But in fact, the dead guy never would’ve met these people.
>> 
>> What do you mean? Those are among the people that he worked with.
>
>That’s a completely different Saturn girl/Saturn Queen at the end than it
>was in the beginning. I wouldn’t even have known who it was if she didn’t
>have the Saturn logo on her chest.
>
>
>> Hell, one of them even asked him at the beginning of the movie if he
>> had taken his shot and warning him that "You know what happens if you
>> don't take your shot." So of course they knew him.
>
>Yeah, that was the beginning Saturn girl, who was like the comics.
>
>> 
>>> I liked Mano (the hands of fate) accidentally burning off the Empress’
>>> face. Wikipedia says Jessica killed them all? I guess I blinked. Certainly
>>> Saturn girl should be pissed at her.
>> 
>> Given that they aren't normal humans who knows if they were actually
>> killed or not. Not sure how dangerous the Empress would be without her
>> EYE.
>
>That was another stupid part of her plan.
>
>
>> 
>>> Actually, the Empress plan has another fatal flaw. Almost all those other
>>> worlds were settled by travelers from earth. Destroying the solar system in
>>> the 21st-century is going to un-create everybody on her team.
>> 
>> Yeah, I don't know what the rules are in that universe for time
>> travel, but normally what you say is how time travel would work. 
>> 
>>> There’s no way Batman should have been able to go mano on mano on Mano.
>>> 
>>> So the ax can slice a ring in half! And Jessica uses Hal’s oath, and
>>> somehow saying it without a power battery or a main power battery or a
>>> ring, or any green energy at all manages to reform the ring and power
>>> herself? I don’t think so.
>> 
>> Yeah, they were going with her being somehow more powerful than anyone
>> else in the GL, perhaps because she conquered her fears. Sort of like
>> Batman dealing with his fears of bats by becoming the Night. Notice
>> how when she powers up she gets that aiming reticule around her eye. I
>> had thought she was going to somehow get this magical power up by
>> gathering up the remnants of power on Oa or Mogo, but nope. She just
>> becomes ultra powerful because she becomes ultra powerful.
>> 
>
>Wiki sorry I’ve explains this. They took a storyline with different people
>and powers and grafted it onto this movie. Which is probably why it didn’t
>make any sense.
>
>
>>> Thanks for the recommend!
>> 
>> You are welcome.
>> 

At least tonight's resurrection made more sense. Just finished
rewatching JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK APOKOLIPS WAR where two people get
resurrected but at least there is a reason why it happened that fits
in with what we've seen before.