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On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 18:56:09 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>On 8/23/24 06:40, James Nicoll wrote:
>> In article <va83rb$i1pu$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Cryptoengineer  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/22/2024 1:58 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> On 8/21/2024 11:27 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>>>> In article <va68qr$6u1l$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bush I was a private citizen during Clinton's presidency,
>>>>>>> and could not legally engage in diplomacy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe you may have confused Bill Clinton (POTUS 1993 - 2000)
>>>>>> Jimmy Carter (POTUS 1977 to 1980).
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup. Major brain fart.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it doesn't change the point. How do you get Bush I (who
>>>>> did a lot of diplomatic work when the GOP were in power),
>>>>> negotiating with Iran over the hostage deal, when he was
>>>>> a private citizen? What quid pro quo could he offer to the
>>>>> Iranians?
>>>>
>>>> He (GHWB) had been the director of the Central Intelligence Agency
>>>> during the previous (Ford) republican administration.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ...which means that he certainly aware of the Logan Act, which
>>> forbids private citizens from negotiating like that. Prior to
>>> Reagan's inauguration, Bush was a private citizen.
>>>
>> But he was head of the CIA, so used to treating laws as an optional
>> extra.
>>=20
>	That is the case indeed. The Land-n-Order Republican President
>though broke laws himself dealing with Nicaragua. He really should have
>been impeached but of course Presidential Immunity saved him for
>dementia. He was just a front for the rich and largely unknow people
>who pay little tax but made large contributions to the Congress persons
>of their choice who support the anti-tax movement.

My take has been that he was basically not functioning from about 1983
onwards. After that, the country was run by Nancy -- or, rather, her
astrologer.

>	And he is sainted by the GOP since he took down the Soviet  Union by=20
>the simple expedienent of outspending the USSR. Alos they
>seem to think he followed their line on taxation of the most highly
>remunerated.

Outspending the USSR worked. Can't argue with success.=20

Well, provided the means are not immoral or illegal, anyway.

Len Deighton did a nine-novel series, starting with /Berlin Game/,
which turns out to be about this sort of thing.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"