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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Suspension losses
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 13:30:20 +0700
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 21:25:38 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:03:44 -0000 (UTC), Ted Heise <theise@panix.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:13:57 -0800,
>>  Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>>  On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:58:35 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> >On 1/13/2025 12:06 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
>>> >> You, as a person, don't need or consume heat. Somewhat 
>>> >> simplified, you need a certain range of temperatures.  In the 
>>> >> ideal case, you don't need any additional energy, because 
>>> >> your body already produces heat. A little bit of isolation, 
>>> >> perhaps provided by that very blanket, might be sufficient.
>>> >
>>> >And, I suppose, we could do away with all home heating, and 
>>> >just wear very heavy clothing all winter. But I don't know of 
>>> >anyone doing that.
>>> 
>>>  I'm currently doing something similar to save firewood, which 
>>>  costs about $500/cord delivered.
>>
>>Oh my gosh, that's outrageous!  A buddy and I cut firewood for a 
>>living in Flagstaff one summer.  We charged $30 for a cord of pine 
>>(cut, split, delivered and stacked),  Oak was $40.
>
>When I first moved to Santa Cruz in about 1974, dry oak and madrone
>firewood was about $50 delivered.  Of course, the vendors always
>provided less than one cord and not so dry (green) wood which required
>an extra year to dry out.  Nobody wanted pine, which burns fast and
>hot.  There are also idiots that burn wet pine which generates lots of
>creosote.  However, the real problem is that the energy generated
>(BTU/cord) for pine (16 million BTU/cord) is much lower than oak (29
>million BTU/cord.  I burned some pine long ago, and never repeated
>that mistake.  
>
><https://modernsurvivalblog.com/alternative-energy/best-wood-for-heating/>
>"...a cord of Pine will only provide 60% of the heat as Oak"
>
>My wood pile 2024-2025:
><https://photos.app.goo.gl/hRQZHVcHtykygudz9>
>
>My wood piles over the years:
><https://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/home/>


My grandfather had a "wood yard", actually a forest, where he cut and
spit the year's stove wood.  At the house he had a "woodshed"a closed
building, with a lock,that held two years wood. Each year he'd cut one
years supply and store it in the shed till the following year so he
always had one year old, dry wood to burn.
-- 
Cheers,

John B.