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From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Abusive cancel
Date: 18 Jan 2024 15:33:54 GMT
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llp <contact@usenet.ovh> wrote:
> Olivier Miakinen a émis l'idée suivante :
[...]
> Rather than dumping your lies on this group too,
> respond to the technical observations made or return to your sandbox.
> 
> You don't seem to have understood how usenet works and why your desire
> to cancel messages cannot succeed outside of paganini.org and two other
> servers that seem to accept absolutely all cancels.

[Not taking sides in the behind-the-scenes quarrels:]

  Indeed. As has been said many, many times in this thread, there is no,
absolutely no, excuse for these cancels and Olivier should stop
creating/sending them.

  Only with approval of and in cooperation with paganini.org and the two
other servers, he/they could issue *local* cancel *commands* (not cancel
articles), but AFAICT, he does *not* have admin approval on the two
other servers and for paganini.org it is (AFAICT) a non-issue.

  Anyway, this subject is no longer up for discussion, because all has
been said over and over and no amount of foot-stamping can/will change
this malpractice to become accepted practice.

  And, as has been said umpteen times, don't cancel, but educate users
(and yourself) to use/create their killfiles/filters.