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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JAB <noway@nochance.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Things I Don't Need Today Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:15:41 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <usekvv$1jrqb$1@dont-email.me> References: <v3afuipg2ad5u7ejbk262faghu96bp2v0t@4ax.com> <sm0msrae49w.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi> <uscc97$11qql$1@dont-email.me> <uscu95$15t0g$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:15:43 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="96ebe23aca1ac4c44351babc7e4fddd0"; logging-data="1699659"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19CLOsirIVXtNDvN8KJv3VG" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:paHp+A7Fbr3rv0BTJyiUBDH+DhY= In-Reply-To: <uscu95$15t0g$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3008 On 07/03/2024 17:41, Justisaur wrote: > On 3/7/2024 4:34 AM, JAB wrote: >> On 07/03/2024 10:15, Anssi Saari wrote: >>> Isn't that the thing? Now that PCs are kinda mature, no one has spare >>> parts for anything relevant. Last time I had a PC problem, a few years >>> ago, my "spare parts" were in the form of classic PCI cards! I.e., >>> completely useless for a motherboard with only PCI Express slots. Had >>> some old RAM sitting around too, probably DDR2, also useless for a DDR3 >>> motherboard. >> >> Welcome to the world of future proof which is anything but. When I do >> my big refreshes I just know that it will be MB + RAM + CPU. Also >> probably the GPU as that still tends to be that thing that drives when >> I do an upgrade. PSU, generally ok. Storage that should be ok, at >> least for the moment as I don't see SATA going away anytime soon. > > I think you mean planned obsolesce. > Not sure I agree on that as I can see why for components to advance it's problematic if they are 'hamstrung' by what specification they can use. To me planned obsolescent is more about building things that will fail coupled with when they make it hard to repair them. One that has annoyed me though is my better half's Kindle can basically only be used to connect to our own router as the underlying protocols have moved on and the Kindle hasn't. Not something I'd argue about though. I'd also say that with fast moving technologies I kinda accept that what I bought five years ago will be showing its age. > Also NVMe replacing SATA especially on laptops. > Is that really a problem though as SATA isn't going away anytime soon so it's difficult to see that NVMe becoming more and more common means that you can't for example upgrade your storage unless the NVMe is part of the MB - do they do that as it sounds exactly like the type of thing Apple would do.