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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: We finally know exactly how H1(D,D) derives a different result than H(D,D) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:09:58 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <usfd8m$1p8cg$4@dont-email.me> References: <usda7b$18hee$1@dont-email.me> <usdf9p$15934$2@i2pn2.org> <usdh1e$19t14$1@dont-email.me> <usdrrd$1bil8$1@dont-email.me> <usdseg$1bqt3$2@dont-email.me> <usdvj7$1fvhm$4@dont-email.me> <use138$15q44$4@i2pn2.org> <use1sh$1gd96$2@dont-email.me> <use37h$15q45$3@i2pn2.org> <use4f1$1grfn$1@dont-email.me> <8634t1nx2p.fsf@yaxley.in> <usfase$1p1t5$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 16:09:58 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cbe692f823dc8310f00dd0aaf1f84978"; logging-data="1876368"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18LG7MEst/JWaleLTnBLx6k" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:E7oqLtcY/N6hYYmlTS3V9kuHit0= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <usfase$1p1t5$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2306 On 3/8/2024 9:29 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-03-08 05:23:34 +0000, Yaxley Peaks said: > >> With all of these extra frills, aren't you working outside the premise >> of the halting problem? Like how Andre pointed out. > > Yes, he is. > >> The halting problem concerns itself with turing machines and what you >> propose is not a turing machine. > > That is true. However, we can formulate similar problems and proofs > for other classes of machines. > I am working on the computability of the halting problem (the exact same TMD / input pairs) by a slightly augmented notion of Turing machines as elaborated below: Olcott machines are entirely comprised of a UTM + TMD and one extra step that any UTM could perform, append the TMD to the end of its own tape. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer