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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Working_out_the_details_of_the_steps_of_=C4=A4=2EH_?= =?UTF-8?B?4p+oxKTin6kg4p+oxKTin6kgPMSkPiDiiqIqIMSkLkhxbg==?= Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 20:25:26 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <usgham$20e93$3@dont-email.me> References: <usd5ot$a7f$1@reader1.panix.com> <usesk9$1lk0a$1@dont-email.me> <usfclk$1p8cg$2@dont-email.me> <MmIGN.375143$vFZa.293337@fx13.iad> <usfkcd$1rdpp$2@dont-email.me> <9YIGN.461274$c3Ea.142857@fx10.iad> <usfo8t$1s1nb$4@dont-email.me> <usfsfn$18eqv$4@i2pn2.org> <usg097$1trf3$1@dont-email.me> <usg1kc$18jtf$1@i2pn2.org> <usg3v4$1uh5a$1@dont-email.me> <usg70f$18p2b$1@i2pn2.org> <usgac0$1vlpm$1@dont-email.me> <usgddc$18p2c$1@i2pn2.org> <usgfhh$20e93$1@dont-email.me> <usggq7$18p2c$2@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 02:25:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7bba1e21ad186023a2af4b4bf0f27e98"; logging-data="2111779"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/K4wdU06oJahc7f8sXA+dF" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:KR2SeVY0dj+TMg1bDabsEkFhD5U= In-Reply-To: <usggq7$18p2c$2@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2738 On 3/8/2024 8:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/8/24 5:54 PM, olcott wrote: >> H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ <H> must report on what happens in the pathological program. >> When we specify how the pathological program will transition to Ĥ.Hqn >> then we know what H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ <H> will see and how it will report. >> >> > > The problem is that the direct application of the Linz Turing Machine > template doesn't generate the Pathological Olcott-Machine template, > because their execution semantics are diffferent, due to the > modification caused by the master UTM. Ĥ.H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ <Ĥ> is smarter than Ĥ.H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ can possibly be. > The actual Pathological input for Olcot-Machines needs to get to the > state H^.H with (H^) (H^) <H> on the tape, That is not how Olcott machines are stipulated to operate. Ĥ ⟨Ĥ⟩ has <Ĥ> appended to its own tape. H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ has <H> appended to its own tape. *You are just ignoring how Olcott machines are specified to work* -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer