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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: power shortages
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:59:34 +1100
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On 9/03/2024 9:56 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 23:17:19 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-03-08 21:06, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 19:56:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-08 16:01, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 10:40:26 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:22:29 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/8/24 07:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:13:56 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>>>>>>>> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <h8mjui5kf50de3tkplpf1e12k12r8dgl58@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amid-explosive-demand-america-is-running-out-of-power/ar-BB1jtM69
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Increasing demand and declining reliable supply could put people in
>>>>>>>>> the dark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yesterday I was reading Netherlands gov has decided to build 4 new nuclear power plants.
>>>>>>>> They still have to find locations for 3, what if next doors?? ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These are planned to be the --now old-fashioned-- Westinghouse
>>>>>>> design? Big installations that need ten years to build?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if it wouldn't be better to start an industry of
>>>>>>> small modular reactors. Tens of megawatts rather than hundreds,
>>>>>>> Something that could fit on a barge, or a train, transported
>>>>>>> where it's needed, and up and running in months rather than
>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Already in development!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#/
>>>>>
>>>>> It's really not a technical problem. The public has an irrational fear
>>>>> of radiation.
>>>>
>>>> Gosh, it is a very rational fear.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Stay away from mountains and airplanes and your own cellar. Don't ever
>>> eat bananas or potatoes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't. I love flying and mountains. Not a problem. I also eat potatoes
>> frequently.
> 
> The number of cancers caused by non-Russian reactors is about zero.
> 
> Coal power plants emit maybe 10x the radiation per KWH compared to
> nukes. Plus a lot of other nasty stuff.

Wind turbines and solar cells are a lot less dangerous.

> What's shocking is that cigarettes are legal. They kill about half a
> million peope in the US every year. A deal was cut to keep them legal,
> with the states and feds getting a lot of tax revenue to kill people.

America tried prohibition of ethanol in the great experiment. It didn't 
work, any more than the war on drugs has. Taxing tobacco heavily has set 
up a lively trade in smuggling the stuff, but the tax rate can be 
adjusted to make smuggling less profitable, so it doesn't kill all that 
many extra people.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney