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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: IOS v. 17.4 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 10:55:01 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <ushf65$29fqu$1@dont-email.me> References: <usak4s$jusi$1@dont-email.me> <usc05u$10gah$1@solani.org> <PvrGN.77928$Wbff.22279@fx37.iad> <userf6$12v0e$2@solani.org> <v7MGN.137013$STLe.51043@fx34.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 10:55:01 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1573256a3fb7a0f3616cfccd00ada1c1"; logging-data="2408286"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX184wbM92nAtrRJcU6w+fJ6hKU80orDzirg=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wdE1iy3uEu54tiBibT8t6Jo6Bl0= sha1:O/C8rPwenTjOqJnU7A2cavo7zhA= Bytes: 3312 Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote: > On 2024-03-08 06:06, Wilf wrote: >> On 07/03/2024 at 22:49, Alan Browne wrote: >>> On 2024-03-07 04:08, Wilf wrote: >>>> On 06/03/2024 at 20:36, Cameo wrote: >>>>> I've just got my iPhone 15 Pro Max updated to iOS 17.4, but on the >>>>> surface I don't see any changes. Maybe they are deeper. >>>> >>>> I'm really excited about the lime emoji ;) >>> >>> Where this falls apart: >>> >>> I just sent a "lime" emoji as a test. It shows up on my iMac (up to >>> date OS) as a lemon with a green square to the right. >>> >>> Since my SO (recipient of the test) has an iPhone 7, she won't get the >>> lime emoji either. >>> >> >> I was joking about the lime emoji, but seriously surprised that it >> doesn't get rendered properly on older machines. I wonder how it will >> look on Android phones? How do any Apple emojis look on other machines? > > Emoji's are not transmitted as an image but as a code. (Same as > characters - the computer has to generate the font to be seen. And this > turns into a whole "thing" of its own with various fonts and extended > character sets and the saving grace of Unicode (UTF-8, etc)...). > > Emoji's were a defacto thing when they first emerged. As such the code > for an emoji could render something unrelated on a different device it > it didn't adhere to the same "standard". > > Eventually Emoji's were taken into Unicode. Yep. There is a committee > that manages the codes and what they're supposed to represent. Apple is > a member of Unicode as are the usual suspects and many more. > > But, each co. (Apple, etc.) has to come up with scalable graphics for > each code for their own OS'. And then distribute that amongst it's OS > versions. Retro fitting this is practical only to the depth of standard > support. To boot, companies revise their emoji's over time (improve the > graphic somehow or add variation. Yep. For example the gun emoji 🔫 was changed to a water pistol on Apple devices from an actual handgun. > So to your last question, how the Apple sent emoji looks on, say, an > Android phone, is up to the Android OS that receives the emoji. >