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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: power shortages
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 01:34:44 +1100
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On 9/03/2024 4:54 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 8 Mar 2024 19:56:48 +0100) it happened "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote in <gk3sbkx527.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>:
> 
>> On 2024-03-08 16:01, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Fri, 08 Mar 2024 10:40:26 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:22:29 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/8/24 07:40, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>> On a sunny day (Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:13:56 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>>>>>> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <h8mjui5kf50de3tkplpf1e12k12r8dgl58@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amid-explosive-demand-america-is-running-out-of-power/ar-BB1jtM69
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Increasing demand and declining reliable supply could put people in
>>>>>>> the dark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I was reading Netherlands gov has decided to build 4 new nuclear power plants.
>>>>>> They still have to find locations for 3, what if next doors?? ??
>>>>>
>>>>> These are planned to be the --now old-fashioned-- Westinghouse
>>>>> design? Big installations that need ten years to build?
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if it wouldn't be better to start an industry of
>>>>> small modular reactors. Tens of megawatts rather than hundreds,
>>>>> Something that could fit on a barge, or a train, transported
>>>>> where it's needed, and up and running in months rather than
>>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> Already in development!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#/
>>>
>>> It's really not a technical problem. The public has an irrational fear
>>> of radiation.
>>
>> Gosh, it is a very rational fear.
> 
> Yes and no, wildlife around Chernobyl is flourishing
> mainly because there are no people there to kill it, all evacuated.

But there are a lot of mutations in the surviving wildlife.

> The body has a DNA correction mechanism.

It doesn't. Breaks in the DNA do get glommed back together again, but 
there's mo guarantee that the right broken bits get tied back together

> If you look at he amount of people killed by nuclear accidents (bombs apart)
> maybe a few hundred, to the thousands killed each year in coal mining,
> by air pollution, etc, nuclear is very safe.

Mainly because we are properly careful. Coal mining got started long 
before people were all that careful about avoiding accidents, and while 
we've got better, lots of dangerous habits have persisted.

> A nuclear power plant accident may cause some areas to be evacuated for while.
> But earth is big, times moves, radioactive elements decay.

Over up to about 100,000 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fission_product

> Hiroshima and Nagasaki: people are living there again these days after it got nuked:
>   japantimes.co.jp/2023/01/14/special-supplements/hiroshimas-rebound-atomic-bomb-prosperous-regional-hub/

They got blasted by an air-burst. Lots of radiation from bomb blast, but 
  the fission products got widely spread by the blast.

Drop a nuclear weapon on a nuclear reactor and you could make a country 
the size of Belgium or the Netherlands uninhabitable for generations.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney