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From: olcott <polcott2@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05
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On 3/9/2024 7:11 AM, immibis wrote:
> On 8/03/24 20:08, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/8/2024 12:58 PM, immibis wrote:
>>> On 8/03/24 19:12, olcott wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unless it is an extra parameter it has no basis for doing this.
>>>> If it is an extra parameter then it is no longer the Linz proof.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So it's impossible to make a Turing machine that writes 12345 onto 
>>> its tape unless 12345 is a parameter?
>>
>> That is a valid point.
>> It is impossible to get me to talk about that until
>> we first have full closure that the Linz H correctly
>> determines the halt status of the Linz Ĥ ⟨Ĥ⟩ when run
>> in the Olcott master UTM.
>>
> 
> When run in the Olcott master UTM as Olcott machines, the Linz proof 
> does not work because it is designed for Turing machines. A different 
> proof works.

Because Olcott machines are more powerful than Turing Machines they can 
correctly determine the halt status of this input: H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ <H>.


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