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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Resurrecting the mammoth Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:58:01 -0400 Organization: Eek Lines: 61 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <uskvrq$343au$1@dont-email.me> References: <uskrjm$32s9g$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: jtem01@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="72223"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:QNj5uKrEgc+s/Bh9Yhl1kFNG2Qk= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 7606E22976C; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:54:37 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2FC229758 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:54:35 -0400 (EDT) id 0036D7D122; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 18:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DE47D009 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 18:58:04 +0000 (UTC) id ABCE1DC01CA; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:58:03 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <uskrjm$32s9g$1@dont-email.me> X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX185ilvaf7ZeNM7ojHU4lFuYz3XxKYzDvk4= Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4068 RonO wrote: > https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/09/world/woolly-mammoth-elephant-stem-cells-scn/index.html > Another article about bringing back extinct species. The claim is that > they can help restore the arctic habitat, but that is nuts. Shit. Damn. Fuck. I actually agree with you! > One of the > reasons that the megafauna species went extinct was due to the fact that > their habitat was greatly reduced in a cycle where the habitat that they > liked was around for a hundred thousand years, but they had to survive > 20,000 to 30,000 year periods when their habitat was greatly reduced. I don't think they're serious. One reason why I have such impatience with stupidity is because when it's obvious to me, I sometimes (usually) think it has to be obvious to others. "If I could figure it out, they had to as well." No, I'm pretty certain that anyone claiming that repopulating the world with Mammoths is going to return us to a non-existing time of climate stability knows they're talking shit. Best guess here? They're trying to hitch a ride on the Gwobull Warbling wagon. "AGW" is to science what your dog's Alpo farts are to French cuisine. The climate has NEVER been stable during the entire history of the genus Homo, and a warmer planet would be a shit ton better than cooling. Then there's the comparison of the Holocene to itself AND DECLARING THAT IT DOESN'T MATCH! Or even how none of the solution actually map to a decrease in CO2, or that CO2 isn't a so called "Greenhouse Gas" anyway! So, Gwobull Warbling is utter bullshit, but it is lucrative. You want the university positions? You want the grant money? You want public support? Tie your work to Gwobull Warbling. Look. You want investors? You have to be labeled as "Pro Gwobull Warbling Science" by the scammers. Then Apple can invest $300 million into your project before crowing about how oh so "Environmentally Conscious" they are as they cake the planet in mind-altering lithium, choke our landfills in ridiculous amounts of packaging & already raised "Planned Obsolescence" to an art form, ensuring the MAXIMUM consumption of rare earth minerals. But, hey, they pumped $300 million into a cloning scheme so they're "Earth Friendly." -- http://jtem.tumblr.com