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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Nex Benedict
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:26:59 -0400
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On 3/10/24 3:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <uskd6v$300lk$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/8/24 9:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <usgbfr$1vp6f$4@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/6/24 12:45 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <usa2h0$g16c$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/4/24 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2024 at 5:56:21 AM PST, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Republicans themselves said this is the most far reaching bill, and
>>>>>>>> includes everything they've been asking for for 20 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The week Biden took office, he issued 94 executive orders to open the
>>>>>>> border and stand down enforcement of immigration law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until Biden rescinds those EOs, any claims he makes that he wants to
>>>>>>> address illegal immigration are nothing but lies.
>>>>>
>>>>>> So answer his question. What was in the bill that was bad?
>>>>>
>>>>> I already did an in-depth analysis of this abomination several weeks
>>>>> ago, which you completely ignored and only responded to by insulting
>>>>> Trump as per usual. Why should I do it all again just for you to ignore
>>>>> it again?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, hell, hope springs eternal and it's easy to copy and paste so here
>>>>> goes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Republicans got most of what they wanted and that still wasn't
>>>>>> good enough
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it wasn't good enough. And I don't know who you're referring
>>>>> to specifically by 'the Republicans' but anyone who isn't a RINO got
>>>>> next to nothing from this bill with regard to border security. And
>>>>> that's being generous.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even as hundreds of thousands of illegals stream across the border every
>>>>> month, including thousands of gang members recently kicked out of prison
>>>>> in places like El Salvador, looking for a friendlier place to commit
>>>>> their crimes, this 'border deal' would have done absolutely nothing to
>>>>> secure the border.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, it's important to emphasize that no 'border deal' is necessary in
>>>>> the first place. Under existing law, including the Immigration and
>>>>> Nationality Act of 1952, the president of the United States has the
>>>>> authority to turn every single illegal alien away at the border if he
>>>>> determines it's necessary to safeguard the country, to include refugees.
>>>>> There is no requirement that we entertain millions of fraudulent asylum
>>>>> claims-- or even legitimate asylum claims, as rare as those may be.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no legal requirement that we allow a single non-citizen into
>>>>> this country. Period.
>>>>>
>>>>> All that's necessary to secure the border is for the president of the
>>>>> United States to start doing his damn job and enforcing the law, to
>>>>> start using the power that he *already* legitimately and
>>>>> constitutionally has. It doesn't need to be complicated. We just need to
>>>>> start enforcing existing laws as they stand.
>>>>>
>>>>> But if the White House actually adopted this simple and straightforward
>>>>> solution, two things would happen:
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) The Democrat Party would lose out on millions of future loyal voters
>>>>> once the next stage of their plan is implemented: the 'path to
>>>>> citizenship' for all the illegals we let in and who now will be
>>>>> described as leading an 'unfair' twilight existence in our society which
>>>>> can only be solved by making them citizens. Democrats' longstanding
>>>>> plans for demographic replacement at the polls would be stymied.
>>>>>
>>>>> (2) Congress would miss out on a chance to launder hundreds of millions
>>>>> of dollars and Congress never misses out on an opportunity like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> So here we are.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bill proposed in the Senate would allocate another $60 billion
>>>>> dollars in military aid to Ukraine and $14 billion to Israel. (We
>>>>> already give Israel billions every year-- what have they been doing with
>>>>> that? Where has that money gone that we need to dump $14 billion more on
>>>>> their doorstep?) That's a grand total of $74 billion going to secure the
>>>>> borders of other countries. By comparison, the bill only allocates $20
>>>>> billion for U.S. border security.
>>>>>
>>>>> So to restate for the slow kids in the back of the room: Our leaders are
>>>>> proposing to spend roughly 400% more on securing the borders of two
>>>>> other foreign countries than they are on securing the border of our own
>>>>> country.
>>>>>
>>>>> And it gets worse. Because even the money that's supposedly going for
>>>>> our border security will actually in practice only facilitate the entry
>>>>> of millions of more illegal aliens into the U.S. Specifically, the bill
>>>>> allocates $2.3 billion for something called "refugee and entry
>>>>> assistance activities" by giving "grants or contracts to qualified
>>>>> organizations and non-profit entities to provide culturally and
>>>>> linguistically appropriate services, including housing, medical, and
>>>>> legal assistance and ease management assistance". (Ease management
>>>>> assistance? WTF? Why am I paying for that?) So that's more than two
>>>>> billion dollars to the left-wing 'non-profit' organizations that exist
>>>>> principally to find ways to sneak as many illegals into this country as
>>>>> possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> By doing so, this bill actually creates more incentives for illegals to
>>>>> come here in the first place.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the highlights of the bill is that it requires the Executive
>>>>> Branch to close the border on an emergency basis if the number of
>>>>> illegal entries exceeds 5000 in one week or 8500 in one day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except the bill also gives Joe Biden the authority to waive this
>>>>> emergency requirement at any time at his discretion. So of course it
>>>>> will never be enforced. He and DHS Secretary Mayorkas could effectively
>>>>> just ignore this entire section of the law if it were passed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bill also doesn't count unaccompanied minors from countries other
>>>>> than Mexico and Canada toward the totals necessary for border closings.
>>>>> In other words, a significant percentage of illegals from Haiti, Cuba,
>>>>> Honduras, Pakistan, China, etc. simply don't count. We could have 20,000
>>>>> of those show up in one day and it wouldn't count.
>>>>>
>>>>> And on top of that, the bill doesn't *actually* close the border, even
>>>>> if this fraudulent 5000-illegal threshold is reached. Per one of the
>>>>> bill's co-authors, Senator Chris Murphy: "The bill contains a
>>>>> requirement that the president funnel asylum claims to the land ports of
>>>>> entry when more than 5000 people cross in a day. The border never closes
>>>>> but claims must be processed at the ports."
>>>>>
>>>>> So basically even if these arbitrary numbers are reached, the border
>>>>> never closes. The illegals are just re-directed to processing centers
>>>>> where they are then let into the country. It's a complete scam by
>>>>> design. And a scam that's designed to last for a long time, given the
>>>>> bill's 3-year sunset provision. The idea being that if Trump does get
>>>>> re-elected, he'd be bound by the terms of this deal and couldn't do
>>>>> crazy things like ACTUALLY shut down the border and stop this
>>>>> never-ending firehose of illegals.
>>>>>
>>>>> In one key respect, this bill would actually *lessen* the
>>>>> already-minimal standards for allowing illegals into the country. Right
>>>>> now, people applying for asylum need to show "a significant possibility
>>>>> that they can establish a credible fear of persecution on the basis of
>>>>> race, national origin, political beliefs, etc." Not a high standard. It
>>>>> doesn't require them to provide any actual evidence of their claims.
>>>>> Just make a claim, which they've been coached to say and which they've
>>>>> rehearsed, and then get into the country. But this border bill would
>>>>> lower that standard even further, if that's possible, from a
>>>>> "significant" possibility of persecution to merely a "reasonable"
>>>>> possibility of persecution. And reasonable is just another way of saying
>>>>> 'plausible'. In other words, it's a bar that anyone from anywhere can
>>>>> clear. There's no way that anyone claiming asylum will ever get turned
>>>>> away if that's the standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bill is an abomination that makes the border *less* secure than it
>>>>> already is, which is a remarkable feat that few, if any, people imagined
>>>>> was even possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank god the House Republicans said the bill was dead on arrival. But
>>>>> it doesn't begin to explain why Senate Republicans thought there was
>>>>> anything here that could possibly be considered good for America.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's as if the Senate is made up of politicians who despise their own
>>>>> citizens and whose top priority is the safety of foreigners in other
>>>>> countries thousands of miles from their own shores. And they know it.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you confront them on why they've utterly failed at the border, they
>>>>> don't even try and justify their behavior. They just call you a racist
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