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From: FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Biden To Deploy U.S. Military To Gaza To Help The Palestinians:
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:33:21 -0400
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On 3/10/24 4:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <17bb80004f59a21f$3$856620$cd54664@news.newsdemon.com>,
>   moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/10/2024 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <uskdm2$30432$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/8/24 10:08 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <usgdhn$2079n$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/8/24 2:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <usevpt$1m3o8$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>      Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> President Joe Biden will reportedly announce during his televised State
>>>>>>>> of the Union speech on Thursday that he is deploying the U.S. military
>>>>>>>> to Gaza to help build infrastructure for the Palestinians.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He wants to build a pier/port for Gaza in the Mediterranean. But swears
>>>>>>> this won't require any U.S. military involvement in the Israel/Gaza war.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How exactly will this work, Joe? We're going to have several dozens
>>>>>>> ships and other machinery right there on the shore building the pier
>>>>>>> and presumably several Navy ships there to protect them, so what
>>>>>>> happens when Hamas inevitably starts lobbing missiles at all of them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you're forced to return fire and break your promise that this
>>>>>>> pier-building wouldn't result in us involved in the war, are you going
>>>>>>> to then pretend this wasn't a foreseeable development?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David M. Friedman called the
>>>>>>>> announcement "a cheap political trick".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a political trick, all right, but there won't be anything cheap
>>>>>>> about it, either in materiel or lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Remember that billions of dollars of aid has come into Gaza over the
>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>> 15 years and almost all of it was used to build terror tunnels and
>>>>>>>> rocket
>>>>>>>> launchers. How will that be prevented this time? Won't a port just
>>>>>>>> accelerate and exacerbate this risk?" he posted on X. "And even with a
>>>>>>>> port, the humanitarian aid has to be loaded onto trucks to get to their
>>>>>>>> destination-- yes, the same trucks that Hamas is commandeering and
>>>>>>>> preventing from going to the right people!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly. We're going to spend billions building this port for Gaza (a
>>>>>>> city that essentially doesn't even exist anymore, FYI) and when it's
>>>>>>> finally open, any aid that's offloaded there will just be hijacked by
>>>>>>> Hamas after it leaves the port.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which will then lead Biden to say, "Well, I know I promised no American
>>>>>>> boots on the ground but we didn't foresee the problems with the aid
>>>>>>> after it leaves the port, so now we need to send in tanks, APCs, and
>>>>>>> troops to protect the aid until it gets to the people." And whammo, just
>>>>>>> like that we're in a shooting war in Gaza.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If only Biden put this much effort into securing the southern border
>>>>>>> here in America...
>>>>>
>>>>>> YOU guys crafted the bill, then YOU guys shot your own bill down and now
>>>>>> want to pretend Biden is responsible for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Biden is responsible for the entire border mess for the last three years
>>>>> since he took office. It wasn't Republicans who signed 94 EOs ordering
>>>>> everything from cutting holes in barriers so that illegal could have
>>>>> easier entry into the country, to ordering the Border Patrol to refrain
>>>>> from stopping illegals entering the country.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretending three years later that he has nothing to do with the raging
>>>>> chaos that resulted from his EOs, and it's all the fault of Republicans
>>>>> whose RINO members crafted a bill that makes the problem worse, is
>>>>> idiotic. But it's a brilliant trick if you can find someone stupid
>>>>> enough to fall for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> People aren't as stupid as you want them to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> No kidding. That's why we see right through this 'bipartisan border
>>>>> bill'.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretend all you like, we had a solution to the border problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allowing up to 8500 illegals per day to continue to flow unvetted into
>>>>> the country isn't a solution to the border problem under any definition
>>>>> of 'solution' in the English-speaking world, other than, I suppose, it
>>>>> would be legalized under this bill so I guess you could claim they can't
>>>>> be illegals if their entry was legalized and that would give a victory
>>>>> in the language war.
>>>>>
>>>> Again, Republicans put together a fix for the border.
>>>
>>> Again, continuing to allow thousands of illegals unrestricted access to
>>> the nation is not a 'fix'. It's just leaving everything broken and
>>> pretending you fixed it.
>>
>> You *DO* understand that, even if the bill had hermetically sealed the
>> border and deported all current non-legals, it would *STILL* have been
>> shot down like an escaping doe.  Not sure you should be celebrating...
> 
> And if such a bill had been shot down by Republicans, I'd be the first
> one bitching about them for doing it.
> 
> But in this case, shooting it down was the right move, even if some of
> them had dubious motives for doing so.
> 

It WAS shot down by Republicans.  What do you mean "if"?

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