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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: RE: Re: Frank and his electric car Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 11:51:41 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 54 Message-ID: <usn9ae$3mlhb$1@dont-email.me> References: <KHkHN.88957$6ePe.39282@fx42.iad> <usllee$38gli$1@dont-email.me> <0MEHN.116380$GX69.80244@fx46.iad> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 15:51:42 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4231ca980b993a006443654adf88f8bb"; logging-data="3888683"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18RalLKz5NjAjsyvx0j7S90q6/mMoaoQ/g=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:RyXKirzfXs66A08hbArjrlnJ2Y4= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <0MEHN.116380$GX69.80244@fx46.iad> Bytes: 3787 On 3/11/2024 10:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote: > On Sun Mar 10 21:06:18 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 3/10/2024 11:53 AM, Tom Kunich wrote: >>> Frank, here is a statement from the National Highway Traffic Safety Board >>> >>> "In August 2012, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) decided to begin a US$8.75 million study of whether lithium-ion batteries in plug-electric vehicles pose a potential fire hazard. ... The report concluded, "...ignition of flammable electrolytic solvents used in Li-ion battery systems are anticipated to be somewhat comparable to or perhaps slightly less than those for gasoline or diesel vehicular fuels. The overall consequences for Li-ion batteries are expected to be less because of the much smaller amounts of flammable solvent released and burning in a catastrophic failure situation." >> >> Read that again, Tom. And perhaps get a high school student to help you >> understand it. >> >>> Right there it says that EV fires are about as often as gasoline fires on ICE vehicles. >> >> No, that's not what it said. And sadly, the dismal reading comprehension >> that caused you to misunderstand will also make my explanation >> incomprehensible. Still, out of excessive charity, I'm going to try to >> explain! >> >> The study you referred to POTENTIAL fires, and ANTICIPATED EV fires to >> be the same or less than gasoline or diesel fires. >> >> The data since then shows that in practice, ACTUAL EV fires are far, far >> less common than gasoline or diesel fires. >> >> The study was saying "Hmm, this might happen." The data is saying "This >> is what's actually happened." >> >> (If you do come around to understanding that, you should give that high >> school student a nice tip.) >> >>> I realize that you believe that buying an EV proves your God-like judgement but if I were you I would put very many very loud fire detectors around your home. And keep their batteries up to date. >> >> If you were me, you'd have excellent reading comprehension, you'd >> understand how to interpret data, you'd make far fewer mechanical >> mistakes, you'd make far fewer failed predictions of disasters, you'd >> not have lost investment money when the stock market surged under Obama, >> you'd live in a far nicer community, you'd be far less fearful, and >> you'd be far, far happier. >> >> But you are not anything like me. Sorry, Tom, deal with it. >> >> -- >> - Frank Krygowski >> > > > > > Frank, do you suppose that people cannot read for themselves? You've proven you can't - at least, with comprehension. -- - Frank Krygowski