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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 09:24:05 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <usnb76$3n38e$2@dont-email.me> References: <us5o70$3dllq$1@dont-email.me> <xLFFN.343717$yEgf.162517@fx09.iad> <us7a3i$3q2nu$1@dont-email.me> <cKKFN.35945$hN14.2039@fx17.iad> <us8438$3vmul$5@dont-email.me> <TONFN.396530$Ama9.288929@fx12.iad> <us8cni$13s3$3@dont-email.me> <5V5GN.669533$p%Mb.342437@fx15.iad> <usaqe5$l61q$3@dont-email.me> <m1rGN.405890$Ama9.90755@fx12.iad> <kVYGN.65605$mMj7.17306@fx01.iad> <rd%GN.463834$c3Ea.296987@fx10.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:24:06 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f2ae12452000c11022d4a43390c5a4cc"; logging-data="3902734"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+09rJbtxk0uHtPu0zr1L0r7/jadl1soaQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:4EaLlCrjqwqluLczOqcIvBmPC9s= In-Reply-To: <rd%GN.463834$c3Ea.296987@fx10.iad> Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 2980 On 2024-03-09 07:27, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2024-03-09 07:49, Bud Frede wrote: >> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes: >> >>> On 2024-03-06 17:24, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2024-03-06 14:14, Alan Browne wrote: >>> claimed with a (large) grain of salt. >>>>> >>>>> Imagine my consternation. >>>>> >>>>> Fact is I have an Apple Silicon iMac and the numbers are plain to see. >>>>> >>>> The numbers are what you CLAIM to have seen... >>>> ...but won't show screenshots to corroborate. >>> >>> I have no obligation to do so. >>> >>> What you can do is go get your self an Apple Si Mac and see for >>> yourself. >> >> I myself would not find 8GB RAM to be enough. However, my wife finds it >> to be quite usable on her M1 Macbook Air. >> >> I do prefer more storage than 256GB, but my work MBPs have only had that >> much the past several iterations and it's been fine. (I store most >> things for work in cloud storage that my workplace provides.) >> >> Theoretically, the tight coupling of CPU, GPU, RAM, and SSD on Apple >> Silicon makes it less sensitive to limited amounts of RAM, but we're not > > It's not all that fantastic as my experience in same setup v. memory > allocation shows. > > Past architectures (lower end intel) already had GPU using main memory > on the order of 1 - 2 GB. Other devices used memory mapped IO to some > extent. Of course the current memory bandwidth is very high, so that is > good. > > Apple Si "upped the ante" - but the hype from Apple hasn't stood testing. Testing you won't actually show...