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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: RE: Re: Allez with the new Crankset
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 14:08:11 -0500
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On 3/11/2024 12:35 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Mon Mar 11 17:26:06 2024 Roger Merriman  wrote:
>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> The EVO bottom bracket is prsently out for delievery but this being
>>> Monday it probably won't arrive until late this afternoon. But I have all
>>> of the special tools to install it in minutes and do Cull Canyon tomorrow.
>>>
>>> The only possible problem will be the fit. Last time the reach was a
>>> little long and I tried to correct that with the saddle position. I have
>>> to admit that I don't understand fit: the Basso fits much better than my
>>> other bikes but the onlt obvious difference is the reach. Following the
>>> Youtube directions for fit gives me very large differences even in saddle
>>> height so I certainly no longer believe in those fit methods beyond as a
>>> starting point for your own comfort.
>>>
>>> I will say that the saddles with the slit center are pretty much a must
>>> for men. I was using a EC90 but you have to be riding a lot so that your
>>> butt gets very hard before they work. The Basso came with a Flite saddle
>>> which is heavily padded and that was comfortable but missing the center
>>> opening. But Flites Gel saddles have a spit. So I bought one for the
>>> Allez and it is very comfortable except perhaps a little too bouncy. I
>>> just purchased another for the Fondriest when all of the parts come in
>>> for changing ober to the Shimano parts rather than Campagnolo. When the
>>> only way to get the replacement reel is to purchase an entire lever, that
>>> finished me with Campagnolo. I believe that is going to happen to many
>>> people. Shimano parts aren't that easy to come by, but certainly easier
>>> than Campy. I wonder if eventually Campy will be remembered only for the
>>> invention of the derailleur and not as a large company.
>>>
>>
>> They didn?t invent the Derailleur not by a long shot, was some working
>> designs at the turn of the 20th century, then Simplex introduced cable
>> rather than rod design in followed by Suntour and the introduction of the
>> slant-parallelogram and Shimano with indexed shifting are the three
>> revolution designs.
>>
>> Campagnolo absolutely did innovation notably the quick release hub, but not
>> the derailleur some evolution of the design as did others but arguably its
>> Simplex/Suntour who made the derailleur as we know it.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>>
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> 
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> I haed a Simplex derailleur thar looked like a campy but it didn't shift reliably

Depending on the years/model of each, for most examples the 
Simplex is the superior product.  Campagnolo made great 
changes in 1992 but by then Simplex was no more.
-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971