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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 17:38:34 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 66 Message-ID: <uso86b$3tcuh$2@dont-email.me> References: <us5o70$3dllq$1@dont-email.me> <xLFFN.343717$yEgf.162517@fx09.iad> <us7a3i$3q2nu$1@dont-email.me> <cKKFN.35945$hN14.2039@fx17.iad> <us8438$3vmul$5@dont-email.me> <TONFN.396530$Ama9.288929@fx12.iad> <us8cni$13s3$3@dont-email.me> <5V5GN.669533$p%Mb.342437@fx15.iad> <usaqe5$l61q$3@dont-email.me> <m1rGN.405890$Ama9.90755@fx12.iad> <kVYGN.65605$mMj7.17306@fx01.iad> <rd%GN.463834$c3Ea.296987@fx10.iad> <usnb76$3n38e$2@dont-email.me> <t3LHN.553125$xHn7.506395@fx14.iad> <uso1sb$3s7gj$1@dont-email.me> <8tMHN.368005$q3F7.67456@fx45.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 00:38:35 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fabb053216cabbe32888fceace4f59df"; logging-data="4109265"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+PTpLWL4Gk0I0Tv2CWwP7pU/UgHyrEZMY=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qLkLG4YYaeqOA7P9vxZjlrZTVNM= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: <8tMHN.368005$q3F7.67456@fx45.iad> Bytes: 3862 On 2024-03-11 16:29, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2024-03-11 18:50, Alan wrote: >> On 2024-03-11 14:53, Alan Browne wrote: >>> On 2024-03-11 12:24, Alan wrote: >>>> On 2024-03-09 07:27, Alan Browne wrote: >>>>> On 2024-03-09 07:49, Bud Frede wrote: >>>>>> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2024-03-06 17:24, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2024-03-06 14:14, Alan Browne wrote: >>>>>>> claimed with a (large) grain of salt. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Imagine my consternation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fact is I have an Apple Silicon iMac and the numbers are plain >>>>>>>>> to see. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The numbers are what you CLAIM to have seen... >>>>>>>> ...but won't show screenshots to corroborate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no obligation to do so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What you can do is go get your self an Apple Si Mac and see for >>>>>>> yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> I myself would not find 8GB RAM to be enough. However, my wife >>>>>> finds it >>>>>> to be quite usable on her M1 Macbook Air. >>>>>> >>>>>> I do prefer more storage than 256GB, but my work MBPs have only >>>>>> had that >>>>>> much the past several iterations and it's been fine. (I store most >>>>>> things for work in cloud storage that my workplace provides.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Theoretically, the tight coupling of CPU, GPU, RAM, and SSD on Apple >>>>>> Silicon makes it less sensitive to limited amounts of RAM, but >>>>>> we're not >>>>> >>>>> It's not all that fantastic as my experience in same setup v. >>>>> memory allocation shows. >>>>> >>>>> Past architectures (lower end intel) already had GPU using main >>>>> memory on the order of 1 - 2 GB. Other devices used memory mapped >>>>> IO to some extent. Of course the current memory bandwidth is very >>>>> high, so that is good. >>>>> >>>>> Apple Si "upped the ante" - but the hype from Apple hasn't stood >>>>> testing. >>>> >>>> Testing you won't actually show... >>> >>> Yes or no: Do you have an Apple Si Mac? >>> >> >> Yes or no: could you post screenshots of what you claim you have seen? > > I guess you don't. > > I could post the screen shots. Certainly. Am I obliged? > > No. Because: Get over yourself. "Obliged"? Where did I ever suggest you were "obliged", sunshine? But you are JUDGED on what you do.