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From: olcott <polcott2@gmail.com>
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On 3/11/2024 10:57 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/11/24 8:37 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/11/2024 10:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 3/11/24 7:52 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/2024 9:32 PM, immibis wrote:
>>>>> On 12/03/24 03:24, olcott wrote:
>>> \
>>>>>> Troll detected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Once we understand that either YES or NO is the right answer
>>>>
>>>> Not for this decider/input question: Ĥ.H / ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩
>>>> For that decider/input question both YES and NO are the wrong answer.
>>>
>>> The problem that you keeep on missing is that by the point we can ask 
>>> this question, H and H^ are FULLY CODED, and thus we know their 
>>> behavirs.
>>
>> H.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* H.qy // Ĥ applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ halts
>> H.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* H.qn // Ĥ applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ does not halt
>>
>> Since you know that is false why lie?
>> ⊢* specifies an infinite set of encodings.
> 
> Nope, read him again, not just skim and assume.
> 

In other words you are claiming that Linz proved there is at least
one H that does not decide halting correctly on at least one input?

If Linz proved the there does not exist any H that gets every input
correctly then ⊢* specifies every possible encoding of H.


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