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From: immibis <news@immibis.com>
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Subject: Re: ZFC solution to incorrect questions: reject them
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 04:04:32 +0100
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On 13/03/24 03:41, olcott wrote:
> On 3/12/2024 9:17 PM, immibis wrote:
>> On 13/03/24 02:47, olcott wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2024 8:05 PM, immibis wrote:
>>>> On 13/03/24 01:18, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 3/12/2024 7:10 PM, immibis wrote:
>>>>>> So which part of ⟨Q, Γ, b, Σ, δ, q0, F⟩ is different?
>>>>> Exactly one element of Q differs by writing a 1 instead of a 0.
>>>>
>>>> That's part of δ but this mistake doesn't matter.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't clear whether you were talking about a Turing machine that 
>>>> was somehow identical but gave a different return value, or one that 
>>>> was not identical. Now you have explained it is not identical.
>>>>
>>> They are identical except for their return value that is specified
>>> in a single state that is different.
>>>
>>> *This means that they implement the exact same algorithm*
>>
>> OK. Well, one of them gets the right answer and one of them gets the 
>> wrong answer. What is the confusion?
> 
> The Linz Ĥ.H machine gets the wrong answer on its own
> machine description no matter how its Linz H is defined.
> 
> This means that it gets the wrong answer on YES and the
> wrong answer on NO.
> 

This means that two different machines get two different wrong answers 
on two different inputs. The fact that 1+1=4 is wrong and 2+2=2 is wrong 
does not mean that 2+2=4 is wrong or 1+1=2 is wrong.